Hi, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Henri Yandell wrote: > > * Be forgiving to the infrastructure volunteers. While the 'thank them for > > all the stuff they are doing for us' can get tiring, the reality is that > > the ASF seems to be growing in resources and yet Brian has not collapsed > > from exhaustion. > > Well I nearly am, but that's unrelated to infra@, since the infrastructure > /team/ we have now is doing a very capable job keeping the lights on and > the warm water flowing. I peek in from time to time, but credit now needs > to flow to a broader set of people. Sending thanks over to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] will always get moderated through, I'm sure! Thanks brian. well said enough. Of course I do always want to try to suggest *improvements* of the apache servers. But, perhaps my mails would be moderated, in a sense. -- often can not be reached to you -- perhaps. -- Yes -- closed and moderated (BY UNKNOWNED) list. -- Henri Yandell wrote: > Your issue is over what is considered serious. Somewhere a line has to be > drawn between information saturation (shall we ask them to forward all > mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] :)) and lack of information, and as the > number of people who'll complain if it goes a little over is far noisier > than the number who'll complain if it goes a little under, it seems > natural that those of us in the minority will suffer a little. > > Moderators will be surprised as the amount of spam drops (I was anyway). > People using OS/2 will have problems as <insert bug> happens. Non Latin-1 > char-set issues might occur. > > While this sucks for those having these occasional issues, the reality is > that (in open-source or closed-source communities), if it's not someone's > itch, they won't scratch it. The most we could ask for and expect to have > happen is that the Infrastructure's PMC report was sent to committers (in > an edited form as I suspect they have a much higher level of privacy than > other PMC's require). This wouldn't help you as it would mainly be the > stuff that has already been sent out, possibly with some additional stuff > about new machines. > > So what solutions can be applied? > > * My personal solution at the moment is to start recording Infra > information that is important to Jakarta on the Jakarta Wiki. Who we > should talk to get what done etc. Major changes can then be emailed out to > the Jakarta community. > > Scratch a personal itch, and something may grow. At the very worst your > personal itch gets scratched. > Of course I can guess the *burden*s of the moderators in *.apache.org land. -- because I experienced the moderators of [EMAIL PROTECTED] lists. (for experiment -- nice experiment it was!) Well -- and I found a solution for reduce the spam mails coming to *.apache.org lists . I believe it that brian's spamwatch is/was VERY nice and I could -- wanted to try to ENHANCE it. (well -- icarus and minotaur era, IIRC) I had an *VERY* itch to help you guys. But I do not have a karma for apmail and root. This prevented me from doing the *appropriate* infrastructural matters in apache.org. -- I know it that what would be the (infrastructural) problem in apache.org land. And my *native-language* is not English -- peculiar language in apache land -- as is so called Japanese, multi-byted. Simple -- my itch is -- * want to help GENIUS developers all over the world *. Discussing infrastructural matter would be *perhaps* really nonsense. Rather -- I'd like to *design* ideal infrastructure for the genius guys in order to give the full *play*s in the IT lands -- java, perl, c++, tcl, xml. -- Odd? Thanks, --------------------------------------------------------------------- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International (Independent) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
