> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 21 December 2004 21:59
> To: community@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Is ASL2.0 not "GPL-compatible" ??
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> 
> > > On Tuesday 21 December 2004 00:02, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> 
> > > Furthermore, it was explained to me that the patent right
disclaimers
> > > in the ASL2.0 can be circumvented in nasty ways by a truly
malicious
> > > company/individual if that is the intent
> 
> I'd be interested in any detailed constructions as to how such would
> happen. As we are constantly debugging our licenses.
> 
> > by this time next year, software patent violations are most likely
to
> > be enforceable by criminal sanction.
> 
> I fail to see how the current proposed changes would make any material
> change in that respect for say, the netherlands, italy or germany.
> 
> > pliant european legal system (UK law, for example). i don't see any
way
> > in which the ASF could act to help release managers faced with the
> > criminal law in europe
> 
> That is exactly what we are here for. And I can think of many ways to
help
> here. And we contineously try to improve this.
> 
> Also note that in the Apache Software Foundation it is not the release
> manager who is distributing any code or choosing what to release when
-
> but the Apache Sofware Foundation.
> 
> There is a lot of due process to ensure that any release which goes
out is
> an ASF release and that any deceisions are taken by the committers
with a
> proper vote and with proper oversight by the board of directors. As
long
> as committers stick to their CLA and contributors to their license
thenwe
> can, and will choose, to do a lot to shield them.

Will the ASF shield me?
I doubt it.  I really doubt it.
Stephen.




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