On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 02:16 +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > An you mean insulting people and guessing about facts helps us here? I > don't think so. > > Stop insulting
I'll refrain from harsh words. > buy your phone in march I'd buy it today already if it would be available. > and show us what _you_ can do. I guess you started Schoeppenstedt. Have a look at the following link - I think you can imagine the amount of work: http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?lat=43.700235601223476&lon=7.271795248877549&zoom=15 I just rendered Schoeppenstedt and uploaded it. Tip for you: the streets in Schoeppenstedt only get rendered if they have a highway key/value-pair. Apart from spending lots of time and energy getting open map data ready for an open phone, I have the whole OE stack running, have a port of maemo-mapper running on an iPAQ with CF-sleeve, a desktop version and would just be happy to get it onto the phone. C, Gtk, gnomevfs, gdkpixbuf, gconf - all fine with me. I have been running and developping for familiar, installing it on the iPAQ via serial line (at least in the begining). I had a look into maemo and simply believe that OE is the far most advanced platform/build environment. IMHO it is just so appealing to developers, that you simply need to get out the bare phone with a bootloader on it and the developers will flock into the project. The differentiation between Universe/Multiverse will still leave lots of steering opportunity for Sean, Michael, Harald - which is good imho. Marcus _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

