On 05/06/07, kenneth marken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bradley Hook wrote: > A possible solution for this has been discussed under an accessibility > thread. The Maestro is a simple (yet effective) clip-on cover for > PocketPCs. There are a few different versions of it, which work with > various different brands and models of PocketPCs. Check out a picture > at: > http://www.engadget.com/2004/07/01/the-maestro-visuaides-pocket-pc-for-the-blind/ > > The device is simply real buttons that, when pressed, place pressure on > a specific portion of the underlaying touchscreen. Real tactile feedback > without any hardware modifications to the underlaying device. A software > UI written to coincide with the specific button pattern is the only > thing needed. You also get the advantage of very specific pressure > points, allowing you to cram more "hot" areas into the UI than when > using direct finger input. > i could have sworn that sonyericsson did something similar for a numpad with their P800...
They certainly did. was pretty successful as well. They continued the idea into the newer models as well, even started including more, smaller buttons. I t was part of a flipper that had a sensor on so the the phone could detect when it was in place. It then adjusted the touchscreen area behind accordingly. I did meet someone who used it a lot and it had left little dimples in the touchscreen. Not that it bothered him since he nearly always used the flip bit.
Now, what would be novel and cool for the Neo is if we could design a > clip-on device that was also mostly (or completely) transparent, so the > screen could be visible while still providing the tactile interface. > > Keeping some of the various disabilities in mind while designing the Neo > & OpenMoko could really make it a hit in this sector. Pretty much every > phone solution out there for the blind is a real hack job, a system > capable of catering directly to these folks would be welcome. (FYI, I > work at a school for the blind). > > ~Bradley > > Chris Palmer wrote: >> Interesting ideas, but I'm not sure that any adequately handle the >> tactile needs of a touch typist. Without looking at the keys, I can >> feel the nubs on the home keys on my phone's mini qwerty to get lined up >> again. I also have the same concern with using a laser projected >> keyboard (even tho potentially high on the coolness scale). With just a >> big flat surface then there's no way to keep you lined up on your keys >> at speed. I type pretty fast on my mini qwerty. All my personal email >> for the last few years have been 99.9% written on this thing, including >> this one. >> >> -Chris >> >> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 2:10 pm, Jon Phillips wrote: >>> On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 13:35 -0700, Matthew S. Hamrick wrote: >>>> Well... for a while I was thinking about implanting a strong magnet >>>> under the skin in one of my fingers to detect alternating current. >>>> There are a few people out there who have done this and they say they >>>> can feel a very mild wiggle when the magnet comes near a wire carrying >>>> AC. It might be possible to detect the current going through the >>>> touchscreen as you make contact with it. >>>> >>>> But that's probably not a mainstream solution. >>> That sounds like a stelarc solution: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stelarc >>> >>> What about a glove or thimble that you could put on your finger? >>> >>> How much does vibration tech. kill the battery on phones? >>> >>> Some type of current detection sounds interesting... >>> >>> Jon >>> >>>> On Jun 2, 2007, at 1:11 PM, Jon Phillips wrote: >>>> >>>> > Yes, it seems pretty clear that screens are the way forward rather >>>> > than >>>> > >>>> > moving parts. I've seen a few solutions to the tactile feedback >>>> > issue, >>>> > >>>> > with the main being have the phone vibrate slightly upon key press, >>>> > >>>> > along with sounds. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Matthew (and others), have you heard of others? >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OpenMoko community mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> -- >>> Jon Phillips >>> >>> San Francisco, CA >>> USA PH 510.499.0894 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://www.rejon.org >>> >>> MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto >>> Jabber Chat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenMoko community mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenMoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > _______________________________________________ OpenMoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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