I don't think discussing this here would be considered an open disclosure. Talking on a finite list or limited membership with moderation and thus controlled membership is not necessarily open disclosure and not the same as a public printing therefore I think it would still be patentable.

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 2:33 pm, Dean Collins wrote:
This is too perfect. What a cool idea - seriously unfortunately now that you've published here is no longer able to be but was worthy of a patenting.

Not only could the method of shaking but the timing of shaking could have been the key.

Eg hold two devices next to each other and shake them up and down - because of the semi-physical connection they would have the same accelerometer readings this couldn't be replicated unless you had someone 'watching' you move them up and down and was copying the movements within the tolerance errors.


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 If Bob (or Alice) hands his (or her) phone to the other, then if both
 phones are shaken in the same hand, the acceleration pattern might
provide an extremely unique yet similar signature, not unlike exchanging
 an encryption key.

 So if you want to establish a trusted relationship with another Neo
 user, the two phones are shaken together until the software indicates
 that you have generated a complex enough pattern that has been
 recognized on the other.

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Michael, this is (I think) brilliant!

We could call it... "the handshake" (OK, anyone who doesn't know why
that's funny, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handshaking).

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