ok-for hardware and software concerns, how can we donate an idea to the
public, to guarantee the inability of someone patenting the idea?

Something above just mentioning it on a public/mediated ml.

In addition, could you publicly state your idea to "timestamp" it for
patenting?

-Kyle


On Dec 3, 2007 4:49 AM, Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Remember this varies with national legislation. In the UK there is AFAIK
> no 1
> year grace period; public disclosure instantly renders the invention
> unpatentable.
>
> On Sunday 02 December 2007, Clayton Jones wrote:
> > Just a quick note based on all the patent research i've done:
> > Any disclosure in a public forum, whether limited in distribution or
> > not, is considered "public disclosure".  As a matter of fact, telling
> > anyone your idea (other than the people who are co-inventors) is
> > considered "public disclosure".
> > However, that does NOT preclude you from filing a patent - all it does
> > is limit the amount of time you have to file a patent.
> > Once public disclosure is made, you have 1 year to file an application
> > with the US Patent office.  After that, it's considered that you've
> > given up any rights to patent.
> >
> > However, in practical terms it's more difficult to prove original
> > invention once disclosure is made unles you keep a detailed, dated
> > notebook (in ink).
> >
> > On Dec 1, 2007 12:23 PM, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Saturday 01 December 2007 08:34:08 GWMobile wrote:
> > > > I don't think discussing this here would be considered an open
> > > > disclosure.
> > > > Talking on a finite list or limited membership with moderation and
> thus
> > > > controlled membership is not necessarily open disclosure and not the
> > > > same as a public printing therefore I think it would still be
> > > > patentable.
> > >
> > > You are aware that most mailing lists are archived and indexed by
> Google,
> > > aren't you?
> > >
> > > By every sane meaning of "public", this is public.
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