On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:36:06 +1000 Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> > i guess i just don't lik the idea of a thin vertical stack where at each > > layer 1 choice has been made for me and i'm stuck with it, like it or not, > > or i move to a whole different stack. eg - must use qt, or must use gtk, or > > must use efl. allow the choice to be made at the latest stage - not the > > earliest. i prefer the idea of an ecosystem where all these toolkits and > > mechanisms get along and co-habitate. jungle vs ivory tower guess... i'm a > > jungle kinda guy! :) anyone want a banana? :) > > I guess you have to define your target audience. The small niche linux hacker > group or the larger general phone community that requires a consistent look > and feel. Perhaps a good read of the Human Interface Design Principles at > apple might do some good. in that case, maybe we should all have given up - trolltech included, and simply have used windows and visual studio - so we have a consistent os, programming environment, ui toolkit etc. why should there be any variety or choice - i mean... qt is a waste of time competing because it's different to everything else. variety is a fact of life. UNLIKE other platforms we get the chance to support all of the variety - at once easily. other platforms force you into their idea of toolkit, like it or no. at least i dont have to reboot just to run another app using another toolkit... > > sure, but any non-qt app.. will be a behemoth to port. you either: > > just as any non-<toolkit-of-the-day> > Like porting a qtopia app to gpe. or a windows app to linux. are you going to > include win32 or S60 port because they have _way_ more applications written > for them. and so from that point of view - qtopia would be a loser as it has many fewer apps written for it than general X11. :) > > 1. do a whole port of the app to qt/qtopia (work work work!) > > (not to mention now that this basically means you pay nokia a license fee, > > or your app must be GPL, can't be mit-x11, bsd, APL, MPL etc.). > > You want to charge people money for your commercial app? so why is it bad for > Trolltech ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Nokia to do the same? > GPL ensures that the code and software remains free. Besides, the Neo is > touted as a "Free your phone" phone. Why would you want to install non free > apps on it? I could just as easily use any Nokia phone in existence. i never mentioned commercial apps nor money. your idea of open is not mine - or the next person along's. i prefer the open of mit-x11/bsd, not GPL. all are free, open and cost $0, but GPL places more restrictions. > Actually you are free to license the code you write in any way you want. It > just has to be compatible with the license you link it to. No one is stopping > you from writing your code in multiple licenses anyway. if i want to write a library and license it with a less restrictive, yet still open license, it BECOMES GPL - for all purposes GPL will virally impose itself. this is not the case if i use gtk, sdl, efl etc., but is the case with qt. it then would be my choice, as a developer of open, and free software, to choose a toolkit that doesn't limit my own freedom to license as i please. remember i never talked about charging for software or it being closed. :) -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
