On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:27:43 -0700 Steve Mosher <[email protected]> said:
nice steve :) and yes - i put a bit of color in. :) my opinions are not those of openmoko nor do they divine om's future... it's just my interpretation of the facts as they come out :) > Since I worked on the presentation with Sean for the days he was here in > SF, let me give you my view and sean's view. That way we won't get into > some version of the telephone game. > > Sean discussed three things at OpenExpo. > > 1. Our successes. > 2. Our mistakes. > 3. Our challenges > > I won't go over 1& 2 but I'll cover #3 since rasters perception has > a bit of color added to it. Only a tiny bit and he's entitled > to that color commentary, I'll just add what Sean and I, as authors > of the presentation, had as our message. > > Our biggest challenge was to make a choice about how to spend the > balance of 2009. > > There were two paths: > A: Fulfill our promises on FreeRunner and launch GTA03 > B: Fulfill our promises on FreeRunner and launch project B. > > We will talk more about project B in the coming months, but these > salient facts should be able to guide any budding executives out there. > > 1. GTA03 was in constant flux as a design. > 2. GTA03 schedule was consequently always slipping. > 3. The resources required for GTA03 are 3X those required for Project B. > 4. We don't have 3X. > > So, we picked plan B. > > Now comes the question, what about GTA03? how do we get there? And when? > and what is it? > > Well my basic argument was and is this: > > First we attend to the issues that still remain with the GTA02. That's > why the VP of marketing ( of all people) is working on the buzz fix > problem. Second we complete project B. When we've done that, then we > get to eat dessert. Essentially, I made the same argument I heard so > many times on this list: "How do expect us to buy a GTA03 when you've > yet to deliver on all the promise of FreeRunner?" And I took the > arguments I heard from disty seriously, "how do you expect us to buy FR, > when GTA03 is right around the corner?" And I accepted the arguments I > heard from Engineers I respect who questioned the viability of the GTA03 > in the market place. All of those arguments said "put a bullet in its > brain pan!" > > So, what about GTA03? As it was defined, it is dead. So how do we > get to a new GTA03? Two requirements: continue to improve GTA02; deliver > on project B. What is GTA03 and when do we get there? There are a number > of independent efforts out there that are pitching me ideas for GTA03. > I talked to sean a bit about this and I'd like to try to open up more > of the design process and the marketing process to the community. > Perhaps on a separate list. Some of these discussions have already started. > > What can you do to help? > 1. Move GTA02 code upstream. > 2. Stay Involved. > 3. Continue work on applications > 4. Buy a FreeRunner. > 5. Get involved in GTA03 discussions > > Best, > > Steve > > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:35:58 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[email protected]> > > said: > > > >> On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:13:36PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: > >>> 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[email protected]>: > >>>> On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:38:42PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: > >>>>> He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying > >>>>> that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be closed) if a customer put > >>>>> in a large enough order (ie 50,000 units). > >>>> You've just convinced me that, unless this changes, no OpenMoko with 3G > >>>> will get my money as far as I'm concerned :) > >>> Why the outrage? > >> I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that > >> gets less and less Free as new devices come up :) > >> > >> I seriously hope GTA3 fixes some of the most serious problems GTA2 had > >> regarding that. > > > > 3g can be done - just like the 2g on feeerunner - you will talk to a closed > > blob via a defined protocol. just like any chip anywhere. no less free than > > gta02 in that way. BUT yes - you'll pay an extra $200. > > > > nb gta03 - you missed the news from sean's talk at openexpo in switzerland. > > gta03 is "postponed" (read cancelled - postponed is just a nice way to say > > it and try and keep the community hanging around in hope it un-cancels, as > > openmoko has laid off most of their staff (also news from openexpo), their > > linux staff. you don't un-postpone if you just let all the people go who > > work on the software). > > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
