No, you didn't understand me. It isn't dedicated for Neo. It's
designed for handheld devices. Like Neo. And under that environment
you can still use other toolkits. And when I said about good apps I
was thinking about phone apps. And it seems that SHR has really good,
e17 phone apps. They would be perfect, if only there is opimd support
and some "today" screen :)

2009/4/16, Bram Neijt <[email protected]>:
> Saying that the libs are dedicated to the Neo sounds like my worst
> nightmare: no application anywhere ever uses them.. except for some of
> the programs written specially for the Neo. That would imply that, if
> you ever want to use an application on the Neo, you will have to port it
> (or live with the overhead of running multiple GUI toolkits at the same
> time).
>
> Saying we only need good apps sounds like a big understatement of the
> problem. The open source world is full of good apps, the problem is: not
> only do we need good apps, they need to be coded from scratch.
>
> I'm not familiar with the layout possibilities of e, however in my
> experience, the more freedom you give the developers, the more horrid
> the design :(. This often leeds to differently sized fonts, with buttons
> sized to the text they contain, and no place for the user to start or
> stop looking at the application. I've even seen interfaces where you
> where never sure weather something was a button or not, let alone what
> would happen if you tried to click on it.
>
> Most developers are like people making their first Powerpoint
> presentation. Everybody has seen those: everything has a different
> color, size, and it all flies around with sound effects.
>
> Bram
>
> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:35 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote:
>> E libraries seems to be a fastest and lightnest on Neo hardware. When
>> using proper theme of course. And they provide very nice way for
>> layouting. I was sceptic about e too, but when I see that libs in
>> action (from both user and developer side), I'm sure that was good
>> decision. There is even Illume and Elememtary, which are dedicated to
>> devices like Neo. We only need good apps, which are using those libs.
>>
>> 2009/4/15, Cedric Cellier <[email protected]>:
>> > If you'd prefer using Qt or GTK, both have dedicated distros.
>> >
>> > For instance, hackable:1 is the continuation of the initial OpenMoko
>> > software
>> > stack that was based on GTK.
>> >
>> > As to why openmoko guys decided one day to sacrifice all the work
>> > already
>> > done
>> > with GTK and to go for a plain new framework, well you should as well
>> > ask
>> > "Why those Moai on the Easter island" ? :-)
>> >
>> >
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