No, you didn't understand me. It isn't dedicated for Neo. It's designed for handheld devices. Like Neo. And under that environment you can still use other toolkits. And when I said about good apps I was thinking about phone apps. And it seems that SHR has really good, e17 phone apps. They would be perfect, if only there is opimd support and some "today" screen :)
2009/4/16, Bram Neijt <[email protected]>: > Saying that the libs are dedicated to the Neo sounds like my worst > nightmare: no application anywhere ever uses them.. except for some of > the programs written specially for the Neo. That would imply that, if > you ever want to use an application on the Neo, you will have to port it > (or live with the overhead of running multiple GUI toolkits at the same > time). > > Saying we only need good apps sounds like a big understatement of the > problem. The open source world is full of good apps, the problem is: not > only do we need good apps, they need to be coded from scratch. > > I'm not familiar with the layout possibilities of e, however in my > experience, the more freedom you give the developers, the more horrid > the design :(. This often leeds to differently sized fonts, with buttons > sized to the text they contain, and no place for the user to start or > stop looking at the application. I've even seen interfaces where you > where never sure weather something was a button or not, let alone what > would happen if you tried to click on it. > > Most developers are like people making their first Powerpoint > presentation. Everybody has seen those: everything has a different > color, size, and it all flies around with sound effects. > > Bram > > On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:35 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote: >> E libraries seems to be a fastest and lightnest on Neo hardware. When >> using proper theme of course. And they provide very nice way for >> layouting. I was sceptic about e too, but when I see that libs in >> action (from both user and developer side), I'm sure that was good >> decision. There is even Illume and Elememtary, which are dedicated to >> devices like Neo. We only need good apps, which are using those libs. >> >> 2009/4/15, Cedric Cellier <[email protected]>: >> > If you'd prefer using Qt or GTK, both have dedicated distros. >> > >> > For instance, hackable:1 is the continuation of the initial OpenMoko >> > software >> > stack that was based on GTK. >> > >> > As to why openmoko guys decided one day to sacrifice all the work >> > already >> > done >> > with GTK and to go for a plain new framework, well you should as well >> > ask >> > "Why those Moai on the Easter island" ? :-) >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Openmoko community mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > _______________________________________________ > Openmoko community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

