Joerg Lippmann schrieb: > Am Montag 13 Juli 2009 schrieb Nicola Mfb: > >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Ivan Shirokov<[email protected]> >> wrote: [...] >> >> >>>> Well, I would say it was a very bad joke. I spent eq. of 400 dolars, I >>>> was waiting 1 year for glamo acceleration etc, etc. that would make the >>>> phone usable etc, and it turns out, that it will never be. With the slow >>>> bus, one can forget about acceleration... What can be accelerated if you >>>> have to send information about complex bitmaps... >>>> >>> That's really sad =( >>> >> AFAIK there is still some space for improvement in general responsiveness. >> Actually there is a busy loop eating CPU to wait for graphical >> operations to complete. >> There are working in progress to avoid that. When the fix will be >> ready *and* adopting a good design pattern for applications (e.g. >> GUI/logic multithreading split, fusion of frequently used phone tasks >> in monolitic one-shot load and forget applications) we may see an >> acceptable speedy freerunner. >> > > When will that be? When the device is completely obsolete? > > Sorry, but after a year of waiting I still have an expensive brick that I can > neither use as a proper phone (speaker still WAY to low, too unstable, too > slow, too battery-hungry) nor as a PDA (no usable software available). So I > really regret my decision to buy it. But then again, it was touted as a real > phone for end-users back then and being a happy Linux-User for 14 years, I > thought that I could live with some minor flaws... > > I'm really for the idea of freeing the phone (thats why I bought one), free > hardware and the community. And I really loved to see this effort to succeed. > But I came to realize that I start to hate this sluggish, instable device > without good software. I cannot help it. I haven't found a single distro that > works well out of the box. The best ones so far were QTopia/QTe and Android. > And neither are really community efforts. So I consider my personal > experiment > (buying a community-driven phone for 300 EUR) as failed. Sorry. > just a few words. (for the first time i think its worth to say something about negative criticism)
speaker volume: a littel low (every fr seems to be a little bit different regarding audio) and i am one of those lucky bastards without a buzz (depends also on the gsm network) and with volume where i can understand everything well even out on a busy street, but i totally get your point. tooke me month to put my alstate to perfection. i even had to turn teh mic volume down, because othe people complained it was too loud (overdrive). before my alsastate balancing act aoudio was crappy, but i am totally aware of the fact that ijust got lucky. battery life: my best experience was fdom with approx 4 days (calypso deep sleep was still enabled and i misses only about 5 calls in one month, again i seem to be lucky and maybe thsi aswell depends on the network, althoug i dont really know how) freaky thing was: after reflashing with om2008.8 i knew what the calypso deep sleep bug was... since then battery life is about 2 days) pda: what do you need? pilminco is does the job wonderful, but i _do_ get your point. advertising the fr as a usable phone: that si a point where i totally agree with you: it was advertised to be "usable" for advance users/developers, but even if you are _THE_ code guru you cant fix teh buzz for example. unstable: i have to agree: my current system doesnt handel gprs well and wlan is a kernel bug. sluggish: OH YES! glamo was a mistake. also you do feel the missing fpu, because there are no DSPs/external fpus. althoug i managed to watch videos in fullscreen (320x240) with synch audio on om2008 a simple shellscript ans some transcoding did the job (again DSP and the glam has amp4 dsp which works like a charm, but the bandwith to the gpu(???) is the bottleneck) but lets not concentrate on teh graphics: a slow bus doesn make the deviec slow it just makes the display choppy, but as you stated the software is far from finished, so everything else fels slow + there is room for a lot of gui optimizations that would really kick in. software in general: yes! a lot is still not runnign on openmoko phones. i phrased this sentence, because a lot of software ust hasnt been ported and optimized for the small screen. long sotry short: i think you are kind of right. personally i think the software will be reall yuser friendly and _really_ work out fo the box when the device is oblosete. on teh other hand teh palm pre seems to be on second place regarding openness (some people already ran a system compiled from source with full kernel and driver support, although afaik on versions of teh palm pre without gsm/disabled gsm). personally i dont regret byung the fr, because it is fun to play with and i've been able to use it as my daily phone since october last year (2 weeks after i got it). but from what i've heard from other fr users i am just one lucky bastard... i get nearly all of your points, or should i say i get all of your points to a large extend althoug i disagree at some stage. my personal opinion about your statements: finally someone who doesnt see everything just black and white! so for that part i am sorry you were disappointed and for some of the points you mentioned i am still veeery pissed at openmoko and their marketing/advertising strategy, but the more i pissed i am at openmoko the more i am impressed of teh community and the amazing work they did. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
