Hi, will GTA04A5 have 512 MB or 1GB of RAM? In shop, there is 512 MB stated, but on order tracking, there is a message:
"3. good news: we participated in the risk buy of Samsung 1GB RAM+512MB NAND chips (as planned for the Neo900). So you will get 1 GB RAM and faster NAND! Twice as much RAM as the GTA04A4 has. It has already been tested by reworking a BeagleBoard XM and modifying the OS." So, what amount of RAM will be soldered as PoP package? Thanks Pavel H. Nikolaus Schaller píše v Čt 26. 11. 2015 v 18:35 +0100: > Hi, > waiting time is over. The GTA04 will be available again for a limited period! > > We are happy to announce that we have organized everything to start > preparation > of production next week (which means finally sourcing the remaining > components, PCBs > and preparing everything else). > > And, we have now been able to calculate a price that covers all cost (don't > forget that > this project has no sponsor or investor who is willing to cover big losses). > > For those who are already eagerly waiting, here is the link to the shop: > > <http://shop.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04> > > For all others here a full and lengthy description: > > === Products === > > GTA04A5: the new motherboards > > GTA04A4: while preparing the GTA04A5 project we have found > a box with a handful fresh and unused GTA04A4 boards. > Most likely they were put aside for warranty handling > and > then forgotten (because there weren't many warranty > cases). They are fully tested and working and > immediately > available. > > Letux 2804 we have collected a handful of used Neo Freerunner devices > where we can replace the motherboard and thanks to Ch. > Pulster > we also got ~40 sets of plastic parts to build new > Freerunner > cases. We also have enough spare displays so that we can > build "virtually new" devices from them. > > Camera modules: unfortunately we have not found a supplier of a 100% > compatible module. We did get some samples of more or > less > similar looking ones from China but none works. > > === Quantities === > > The quantities are really limited to 80-100 in total. The reason is that it > becomes almost impossible to source all components and for some of > them we can't get good replacements. Some others have been in stock > for a handful of years and may have weakened. The other important > limitation is availability of plastic cases or parts. > > This means, we will produce ~100 GTA04A5 boards and expect to build > ~40 Letux 2804 complete devices and provide ~40 more GTA04A5 boards > which you can install in your existing Neo Freerunner. > > Yes, this will definitively be the last chance to get a GTA04. We will not > be able to build more units. Even if you offer to pay twice the price. > > Well, if demand is high enough and someone finds a good strategy > how to compete with the cheap (but yery closed) ~79 € devices with > Android inside, we could develop a GTA05 :) > > === I did a preorder for a GTA04A5 a while ago === > > We have recorded it and updated your order for a GTA04A5 board > > if your preorder was 100€ or more, i.e. counts as a reservation, we > have reserved a GTA04A5 for you (from the ~40). You will get a > personal "update" mail. > > If you want to switch to a GTA04A4 or Letux 2804 please contact our > shop and we can change it. > > Since the preorders/vouchers usually do not cover the final price of > a GTA04 or Letux 2804, there is an open balance which you can pay > by SEPA/IBAN bank transfer. Using Credit card is also possible but > needs a trick in our shop software so that you please contact us and > we will prepare a CC field for you. > > === Price === > > Oops, why is it so expensive. > > Yes, that is the price we have from being in a niche and in need of something > very exceptional to play with. > > But if you look at the original preorder page, we were even able to reduce > the price below estimates: http://shop.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04A5 > > How does this magic work? The main reason is that we have some common > components and suppliers with the Pyra <www.pyra-handheld.com> and use > the same production company. They are better in reducing cost than the > company who did build the GTA04A3 and GTA04A4. > > You might still doubt and think that we want to rip you off. Therefore I have > decided to publish a coarse calculation (always for 1 unit): > > a) GTA04A5 > > 280€ Component cost > +63€ Production cost > +52€ HW Development&Project management > +50€ Software maintenance funds (see below) > === > 445 € > +85 € German sales tax (19%) > === > 529 € price for GTA04A5 > > b) Letux 2804 > > 445 € GTA04A5 > +45 € components for plastics case > +94 € display, battery, box, assembly (time) > === > 584 € > +111 € German sales tax (19%) > === > 695 € price for Letux 2804 > > We are not getting rich. But we do something for open source and this > community. > > === Software === > > First of all we already have a lot of software available: > * boot system > * kernel 3.7, kernel 3.12, ongoing kernel 4.3, 4.4-rc2 and later > * Debian Wheezy / Jessie images (X11 w/o or with LXDE, XFCE or whatever you > apt-get install) > * Replicant for GTA04 with access to the F-Droid App-Store > * QtMoko (may not run 100% on GTA04A5 because it needs adjustments) > * whatever you like to install > > But we know from experience that especially the kernel is a very crucial > component > and if the kernel is buggy and does not get fixes and updates it can easily > make the > device practically unusable with sufficient reliability and operation time > from battery. > > Therefore we have added a software development funds in the price. > > With this money we want to continue to work on kernel improvements, especially > power management, and fixing significant bugs. > > Our ultimate goal is that this list becomes empty: > <http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-kernel/issues/> > And remains empty because everything for the GTA04 can be found at kernel.org > > This is tough work and is not possible to get done by pure volunteers. > Volunteers cherry-pick > what they see the biggest fun and are happy if it works for them. They > usually do not > do the less funny bug fixes. Especially if they need a lot of tedious work > (compile, test, > fix cycle) or review by kernel maintainers is involved. > > Therefore we think it is the best way that you as the users of the hardware > (and software) > pay a little amount that we can use to hire freelancers and tell them what > has to be fixed asap. > > Nevertheless, volunteer contributions are also very welcome. > > === Timing === > > The shop has opened now and you can place your orders now. > > Production is expected to need 6-8 weeks but depends a little on delivery > times of components and PCB production. And of course there are quite some > upcoming holidays (X-Mas in 4 weeks, N-Y in 5 weeks, Chinese N-Y beinning of > Feb). > > And, we have to test the devices and if anything is not working as expected, > we have > to repair. So please do not expect that we can ship before end of Feb 2016. > > === New Features === > > The new features of the GTA04A5 (compared to GTA04A4) are mainly: > * WL183x WLAN+BT module with 802.11a/b/g/n and BT4/BLE > * the GPS receiver can provide a 1 second impulse interrupt to the CPU > * the (different) infrared receiver can be independently powered off to save > some more mA (it was alternatively powered with RS232 before) > * some sensors have been upgraded to non-obsolete versions (e.g. BMA180 is > out of production) > * WLAN/BT power controlled through a GPIO (so that VAUX4 is now free for > other use) > * 10-pin FFC connector for external keyboard or other I2C devices > * the GPS antenna switch has been redesigned to switch more reliable > * improved headset detection hardware (GPIO instead of ADC) > * CPU will be always 1 GHz and Memory 512MB RAM / 1GB NAND > > We will update the GTA04 manual to describe everything. Final Schematics will > also become available (this time as searchable PDF). > > So again here is the link to the shop: > <http://shop.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04> > > Thats it. Did I forget anything important? If yes, please ask. > > Finally, I would like to say thank you for your patience with this > long-running project. > > BR, > Nikolaus > > _______________________________________________ > Community mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/community > http://www.openphoenux.org _______________________________________________ Community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/community http://www.openphoenux.org
