Hi again, some thoughts about a „pyraPhone“:
Yeah, the cores should limited on 1ghz. maybe with manual switch to 1.5 / when connected to power cord. As UI e17 or KDE Plasma mobile or even Sailfish OS. A pyraPhone should be also have connectors for additional hardware like the moto z / original jolla phone - so it doesn’t need a slider keyboard build in for example: it could be added later. i think after the librem 5 crowdfunding it is difficult to get enough backers. But with the experience/references it would be possible - even more after the pyra is released! cu Matthias > Am 24.10.2017 um 21:46 schrieb H. Nikolaus Schaller <h...@goldelico.com>: > > Hi, > >> Am 24.10.2017 um 20:43 schrieb Matthias Weiß <i...@codeandcreate.de>: >> >> Hello, >> >> i also backed on one. >> >> I like the cooperation with gnome/kde projects and the focus on matrix. > > Yes, this are important steps. > > Gnome/KDE could theoretically just be some > > apt-get install gnome > > on the GTA04. I never had the idea to try:) > > Probably it will be a little slow and more importantly the applications and > widgets > are not optimized for the portrait screen format and rather low pixel density. > > So it will be almost impossible to operate. Unless someone is heavily > modifying > the code. That seems to be the case with the KDE/Gnome & Purism partnership > that > they now start to do something. > >> With a i.MX 8 / 3GB RAM it has also enough power to run most applications >> with desktop features > > Do you need 3GB for a typical desktops? > >> (for example with external display or just if i want a full >> firefox/libreoffice like on ubtouch/libertine). > > Ok, Web rendering nowadays eats memory faster than you can provide it :) > >> Also the kill switches and the „external modem“ are nice promised features. > > Indeed. > > Although I have significant doubt that they have any effect or use case. > Sometimes you want to make a phone call and then you have to switch them on > and rogue software could have waited for that moment. > > A better strategy is to harden the user space and use only encrypted > communication channels. > Then it is of much less importance what peripherals are doing or not doing. > > Anyways, you never have a kill-switch for eavesdropping in the network or on > your > peer's end. So I don't see the biggest risk in the remaining BLOBs of our > GTA0x smartphones. > > BTW: we always had "external modems" starting from GTA01... So it is nothing > new for the Librem 5 although it seems to be perceived that way. > >> >> But indeed i liked it more with the gta04 form factor ;) >> >> The gta04 has (for me) just not enough power; >> if it would based for example on the pyra boards i had backed/brought a >> „gtaPyra“ rather than on the Librem 5. > > A Pyra-Phone :) Nice idea! > > After thinking some minutes, I came to the conclusion that it is not > impossible. > It seems to be doable. Probably even earlier than the Librem 5 since almost > all > components are tested and designed in for the Pyra. And some are even in > production > stock. So it is just a redesign of the PCB by thinning out unneeded parts > (e.g. keyboard > matrix) and rearranging all components so that the form factor fits. It would > be > a stripped-down and simplified Pyra in new shape. > > But it will be: > * big (est. 150 x 66 x 15 mm) - more a Phablet with 5 inch screen > * ugly compared to modern phones (we can only build something styled similar > to an Openmoko - unless a really talented industrial designer helps) > * not 100% blob free (you still need one for GPU, WiFi and Bluetooth, but not > for LTE or doing voice calls) > * no (mechanical) kill switches > * gets much hotter than a GTA04 and CPU clock must be limited > > On the other hand it could even get 4 GB of RAM, 32 GB eMMC, multiple USB > (host) and µSD ports. > > A good side-effect could be that it simply shares the kernel/user-space > software of the Letux OS > with the GTA04, OpenPandora and Pyra. > > I.e. new hardware for Replicant and QtMoko seem to be possible. > > And all that mid of 2018 if we started tomorrow... > > Nice dream :) Anyone sharing such dreams? > > But we would also need a budget to do that. Not 2 Mio USD, but a significant > portion > to do the development of electronics (easy) and plastics case (expensive). > > The question is if there is anyone still interested to invest into a > Pyra-Phone > after the Librem 5 did an excellent marketing job and has drained the pockets > of the > FLOSS community. > > Opinions? > > BR, > Nikolaus > > _______________________________________________ > Community mailing list > Community@tinkerphones.org > http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/community > http://www.tinkerphones.org _______________________________________________ Community mailing list Community@tinkerphones.org http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/community http://www.tinkerphones.org
