Hi, > Am 03.06.2018 um 18:51 schrieb Jonatan Hatakeyama Zeidler > <[email protected]>: > > Hello > > > Am 03.06.2018 um 11:33 schrieb H. Nikolaus Schaller: >> Regarding hardware, there is also the zero phone: https://wiki.zerophone.org > I know. But the Raspberry Zero is weak. How are the tinkerphones compared to > it? How much RAM, how much memory, which processors?
Depends on... >> >> That is a really interesting idea full in line with our overall goals. There >> was >> some interest 2 years ago, and we already had installed a mailing list: >> >> http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/gta04-ubuntu-touch > subscribed. >> But it remained almost inactive. So let me invite you to just make use of it. >> Your initiative can make the ball rolling again. > Lets see. >> Let me ask some question that come to my (naive) mind: >> * how does ubuntu touch differ from desktop ubuntu? > UT has some mostly security orientated design choices that differ from Ubuntu > desktop: > * The root files system is read-only (you can remount it, but changes get > lost by the next update), while the home partition is writable > * The system gets updated by OTA (over the air) updates. This means the whole > root files system gets replaced. > * Apps get installed and updated as click packages that are (normally) > confined and have their dependencies packaged > * There is a Content Hub that Apps can (and if confined, have to) use to > communicate with each other > * The desktop environment is Unity8 (which does not work on Desktop at the > moment, but is being worked on) >> * do they share apt-get repositories? > Yes, they do. But usually you would not use that. Remember: The rootfs is > read-only and changes get lost via updates. But their is a way to install > "legacy" applications via apt-get in libertine containers. But usually this > does not help very much as the GUIs aren't made for Smartphone Screens. Ah, ok. My misunderstanding was that Ububtu Touch is a simple extension to standard Ubuntu like Xfce or LXDE or Gnome (this is also the way QtMoko or QuantumSTEP are built) and not a separate system with its own rootfs management philosophy. >> * how is it installed? does a "apt-get install ubuntu-touch" suffice? > Unfortunately no. All current Ubuntu Touch devices are Android-based and thus > UT can only be installed with android tools like adb and fastboot. There is > the ubports-installer which makes that easy for the supported devices. The > Librem 5 and the Raspberry will be the first ones that are not Android-based > and we still need to find the best way to provide Ubuntu Touch for those true > GNU/Linux devices. There is Replicant for GTA04 (although not well maintained at the moment) which could suffice. >> * what are minimum requirements to memory, screen resolution? > I think the weakest UT devices have at least 1 GB RAM and 8 GB storage. How > about tinkerphones? The GTA04 has (depending on production variant) between 512MB and 1GB RAM + 512MB to 1GB NAND flash + µSD up to 32GB (maybe 256 GB also works). A potential Pyra-Phone (if it is ever built) could have 2-4GB and up to 3 µSD with up to 256 GB (and even more if one can afford). And if that is not enough it would have an SATA port for external storage :) BR, Nikolaus _______________________________________________ Community mailing list [email protected] http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/community http://www.tinkerphones.org
