Hmm.. that's good news! Sounds like it may be a viable option after all.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Andrei Erdoss <[email protected]> wrote:

> More info that I found, which answers my question.
>
> From Hongli Lai, author of Passenger.
>
> Yes, lazy loaded files are loaded once in each forked process. Though
> this is no different from Mongrel/Thin, where the same thing happens.
> You can optimize this by preloading the files in environment.rb, so
> that the forked worker processes don't have to load them again. This
> also saves memory if you're using REE.
>
>
> From Adam, from Pivotal Labs, developers of Desert.
>
> Any version of Rails 2.2 or later should eager load classes by default, so
> this shouldn't be an issue.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Andrei Erdoss <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Bruno,
>>
>> This is what I have found from the author of Passenger, Hongli:
>> This my question:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am using a plugin that is lazy loading files. By using Passenger as
>> the
>> > app server, is the performance effected? Does Passenger have to load the
>> > files over and over again in each fork?
>> >
>> > Please help me understand if this would cause a perfomance issue.
>>
>> This is his answer:
>>
>> Yes, lazy loaded files are loaded once in each forked process. Though
>> this is no different from Mongrel/Thin, where the same thing happens.
>> You can optimize this by preloading the files in environment.rb, so
>> that the forked worker processes don't have to load them again. This
>> also saves memory if you're using REE.
>>
>> My question to you is, how could I preload these files in the
>> environment.rb, if there are alot of them, in order to improve performance?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Andrei Erdoss <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Please let me know what you find out. Thanks,
>>>
>>> Andrei
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Bruno Bornsztein <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ooh, I hadn't noticed that. If desert doesn't work with mod_rails
>>>> (passenger), that's a no-go for me too. I'll shoot Brian an e-mail and ask
>>>> him about that.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bruno
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Andrei Erdoss <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I like your idea. Because I would like to deploy on Passenger, one
>>>>> thing that is not clear is this comment made by the creator of desert, 
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> Takita: I havn't tried Desert with mod_rails yet so I'm not sure about all
>>>>> of the details.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing to note is Desert will lazily load your files and mod_rails
>>>>> uses fork. This may cause a performance issue if the files are not loaded 
>>>>> in
>>>>> environment.rb, because each forked process would need to do the same work
>>>>> to load the files over and over again.
>>>>>
>>>>> To fix that issue (if there is one), you would need to show the
>>>>> constants or require the files within environment.rb.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example:
>>>>>
>>>>> # environment.rb
>>>>>
>>>>> require 'config/boot'
>>>>> require 'desert'
>>>>>
>>>>> Rails::Initializer.run do |config|
>>>>>   # ...
>>>>> end
>>>>>
>>>>> User
>>>>> AnyOtherModule
>>>>> require_dependency 'some_controller'
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any idea how to deal with this in regards to CE?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Bruno Bornsztein <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody have experience using the Desert plugin from Pivotal Labs? (
>>>>>> http://pivotallabs.com/users/brian/blog/articles/459-build-your-own-rails-plugin-platform-with-desert
>>>>>> )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems to have a lot of the good features that Engine has, but also
>>>>>> supports code mixing in models (which is kind of a pain with Engines).
>>>>>> Anyone want to take a crack at integrating this with CE to see how it 
>>>>>> goes?
>>>>>> If it's pretty smooth, it might be a nice alternative to Engines (which
>>>>>> seems to be losing steam).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know what you think!
>>>>>> Bruno
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andrei Erdoss
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrei Erdoss
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrei Erdoss
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Andrei Erdoss
>
> >
>

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