I don't know what it would do to the rest of the components but I've found 5
minutes of exposure to a heat gun ( for paint stripping ) to loosen solder
right up. Works great on multi pin through hole components.

On 9/17/03 6:04 PM, "Jeff Walther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 14:53 -0400 09/17/2003, Compact Macs wrote:
>> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 07:23:07 +0100
>> Subject: Re: SE/30 Locks up at Finder start
>> From: Stuart Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 05:35 AM, Nolen Scaife wrote:
>> 
>>>  Sorry for the string of posts ;)
>>> 
>>>  After quite a bit of system folder copying and trial and error, I got
>>>  MacTest Pro to run.  "SCSI Controller Failed!" is what it says.
>> 
>> Makes sense!
>> 
>>>  Well, what are my options?  I know I could just replace the logic
>>>  board, but are there any other methods?
>>> 
>> I fear not. Changing the controller chip would be very difficult if not
>> impossible unless you have surface-mount soldering equipment, and the
>> only likely source of a chip would be a donor l/b in the first place.
> 
> I think Zilog still sells the 53C80 chip.  Digi-Key used to stock it
> but no longer appears to.   A google search turns up Mentor
> Electronics, but their pricing is not on line, and guessing by their
> web appearance, I bet they have a substantial minimum order, but I
> could be mistaken.
> 
> All moot, I suppose, because most folks aren't going to do that kind
> of soldering at home.   However, it is doable with soldering pencils
> (I use a 15 watt and a 40 watt from RS) if you also have some Chip
> Quik and a good bit of practice.
> 
> Chip Quik is an alloy that one melts into the existing solder and it
> lowers the melting point of the solder.   By forming a bead of Chip
> Quik around the four sides of a PLCC chip like the 53C80, it is
> possible to heat all the pins on one side of the chip by applying a
> soldering pencil to any point on the bead.
> 
> Alternately heating all four sides on a small chip like the 53C80
> will eventually get it to come off the board without damaging the
> chip or the board, because the melting temperature of the solder has
> been lowered by the Chip Quik.  For larger chips an adjustable heat
> gun works well to heat all the pins on the chip simultaneously.
> 
> One last bit of useless trivia.  While a donor logic board would be
> needed, it needn't be an SE/30 board.   Most of the machines (all?)
> in the Mac II family used the 53C80 as the SCSI controller.   The
> chip can be scavenged from a IIcx for example.  The trick is getting
> someone to supply you with one of these old boards rather than just
> sending it to the crusher.    The low value on these old machines
> means that the cost in time to handle them is usually greater than
> the selling price so a huge amount of them are going to disposal.
> Sigh.
> 
> Jeff Walther
> 


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