Well, I reconsidered and futzed about with my Plus and various drives
and actually got a drive that I had given up for dead to work!

I took the Apple ROM 235, which is a Quantum ProDrive LPS 240, plugged
in the 3 termination resistor packs to the drive's board (I think that
this is a key), and set the jumpers for EP (parity) and SCSI 4 (so I
wouldn't clobber anything in the next step). There is no TP (termination
Power jumper) on this drive.

I mounted the drive in an external enclosure, and plugged it into the
external bus of an 8600/200 running 9.1. I could see the drive under
Apple System Profiler, but it wasn't mounted. I mounted my System 6.0.5
System and Utility Disk Images from my 8600's hard drive to the
desktop using Disk Copy. I opened the System disk image, and ran the
Apple HD SC Setup application (v. 2.0.1), and initialized and partitioned
the drive.

I then took it back to the Plus, leaving the termination just as before
(resistor packs on board) and plugged it into the System hard drive
(which is a creaky old CMS drive that doesn't play well with others).
It booted fine, and the new drive popped up on the desktop, showing
221 mb of space. I shut it down, and added my Syquest 44 to the chain,
and I'm now happily copying files from the Syquest to the 235 hard
drive as a torture test. And it is working. I haven't tried loading
a System on the new drive yet. The Plus is running the same version
of 6.0.5 that I used to initialize and aprtition the drive.

The termination resistor pack issue I think is pertinent. The drives
I've tried before either didn't have the packs (they're onboard the
drive with the TE jumper) or had two resistor packs. There is a
common line in each pack, and there are different resistance values
between the two and three pack terminators, so this may be significant.

Hope this helps,
 Stephen

As promised, I went into my workshop today and set up a Mac Plus for
initializing a 1 gig hard disk.

I started with a Quantum 40MB disk for test-purposes. Easy. Used the Apple
HD/SC Setup.

Then I moved on to an Apple Rommed Quantum 500MB drive. The one from
my Performa 6118. No Term Power jumper. But I had a terminator on the
external hard disk case.

Drive kept making the Plus reboot. With the terminator on or off the Bus.

I moved on to a Seagate 1 GIG. Term Power jumpers set.

Interestingly, ALL 7 SCSI formatting programs I used were unable to
format the drive with a 3:1 interleave. The Mac Plus hasn't enough memory
for it to happen. I errored-out all over the map:

Apple HD/SC
Micronet SCSI Utility
Micronet v7.2
CMS Utilities
FWB HD Tool Kit 1.0
FWB Toolkit 1.7.5
Alliance Power Tools


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I took out my IIcx. Trying to format/interleave the 1 gig hard disk to 3:1,
I was given an error message that the drive would not allow that interleave.

So......it would seem that, unless there's a 1 gig drive out there that
allows 3:1, the Plus won't work with 1 gig drives.

Mark? You're not crazy. This may NOT be doable......

Jeff

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