My SE/30 has also had this problem for one or two months now, but yesterday I 
finally tried cleaning the motherboard the way you (and others) described.

And now I put back everything back together, and IT WORKS! No more startup 
delays, no more weird patterns on the screen, and no more strange noises from 
the internal speaker!

I know that 24 hours haven't passed yet, but I really couldn't wait to try it 
out. But to let the remaining moisture, if there is any, disappear, I've 
again opened op the case to dry further, but I think I can already say that 
it worked.

Unfortunately our digital camera wasn't at home when I did the cleaning 
itself, because I think it would be funny to put a picture of the mainboard 
in the water on my website :-)

Daan.

On Thursday 03 June 2004 22:48, Antonio Rodr�guez wrote:
> Hi, Greg.
>
> Other replies are right pointing you to the motherboard. I would try the
> following in this order (from easier/faster to more difficult):
>
> 1) Take out the RAM SIMMs (if you have them). Try to boot the machine
> without the RAM - the Classic II has 2 Mb of onboard RAM, so if the RAM
> SIMMs are faulty, it will work without them. If the Classic II boots
> without the SIMMs, you have got the problem - try to clean their edges with
> an eraser, and if they don't work after cleaning, stay without them or go
> buy another pair.
>
> 2) If you aren't able to boot without the RAM SIMMs, try to pull out the
> ROM chips (the four large chips located in one of the corners of the
> motherboard) and reseat them. When you do this, take care to put the chips
> in the same order and position as they were before.
>
> 3) If the Classic II still refuses to work, wash the motherboard. Take it
> out, remove both the RAM SIMMs and the ROM chips. Then wash it by hand with
> warm soapy water and a toothbrush - some people do this in their diswasher,
> but I think that high presure water can damage surface mounted components.
> The objective of this is to remove the sticky goo from the surface of the
> motherboard, so use your toothbrush mostly in the dirty areas of the coard.
> When it is clean, let it dry at ambient temperature. Do not use an owen of
> any kind, and do not put it into the sun - those could damage the board
> easily. Let it dry for at least 24 hours, more if you live in an humid area
> (otherwise, moisture can still be trapped under the components). When this
> time has passed, you can put again the SIMMs and the ROM chips and plug it
> in your Classic II and see if it works.
>
> It would be nice to know of your progresses :-) .
>
> Greetings,
>
> Antonio Rodr�guez (Grijan)
> <ftp://grijan.cjb.net:21000/>
>
> Greg Koelpien ha escrito:
> > I have what I assume is a hardware problem, but am not sure of the
> > cause and the viability of repair. The problem is a Classic II that
> > won't boot. When the machine is powered on, all that shows up on the
> > screen are alternating vertical bars, about 1" in width, so there are 4
> >   1-inch-wide white stripes interspaced equally with black bars of the
> > same width. There is also a noise, a variable high-pitched whine, that
> > can best be described as the sound old-time radios would make as you
> > tune the dial. The internal fan is on, and I can hear the HD spinning,
> > and the keyboard lights flash on when the power switch is turned on,
> > but otherwise appears dead. There is no startup chime, happy mac, sad
> > mac, or other image. Anybody recognize the symptoms?
> >
> > Greg Koelpien

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