Hi Daan, do you have an website for Macintosh compact? What is the www
address please? 
Daniel (Belgium)

le 5/06/04 13:41, Daan Goedkoop � [EMAIL PROTECTED] a �crit�:

> My SE/30 has also had this problem for one or two months now, but yesterday I
> finally tried cleaning the motherboard the way you (and others) described.
> 
> And now I put back everything back together, and IT WORKS! No more startup
> delays, no more weird patterns on the screen, and no more strange noises from
> the internal speaker!
> 
> I know that 24 hours haven't passed yet, but I really couldn't wait to try it
> out. But to let the remaining moisture, if there is any, disappear, I've
> again opened op the case to dry further, but I think I can already say that
> it worked.
> 
> Unfortunately our digital camera wasn't at home when I did the cleaning
> itself, because I think it would be funny to put a picture of the mainboard
> in the water on my website :-)
> 
> Daan.
> 
> On Thursday 03 June 2004 22:48, Antonio Rodr�guez wrote:
>> Hi, Greg.
>> 
>> Other replies are right pointing you to the motherboard. I would try the
>> following in this order (from easier/faster to more difficult):
>> 
>> 1) Take out the RAM SIMMs (if you have them). Try to boot the machine
>> without the RAM - the Classic II has 2 Mb of onboard RAM, so if the RAM
>> SIMMs are faulty, it will work without them. If the Classic II boots
>> without the SIMMs, you have got the problem - try to clean their edges with
>> an eraser, and if they don't work after cleaning, stay without them or go
>> buy another pair.
>> 
>> 2) If you aren't able to boot without the RAM SIMMs, try to pull out the
>> ROM chips (the four large chips located in one of the corners of the
>> motherboard) and reseat them. When you do this, take care to put the chips
>> in the same order and position as they were before.
>> 
>> 3) If the Classic II still refuses to work, wash the motherboard. Take it
>> out, remove both the RAM SIMMs and the ROM chips. Then wash it by hand with
>> warm soapy water and a toothbrush - some people do this in their diswasher,
>> but I think that high presure water can damage surface mounted components.
>> The objective of this is to remove the sticky goo from the surface of the
>> motherboard, so use your toothbrush mostly in the dirty areas of the coard.
>> When it is clean, let it dry at ambient temperature. Do not use an owen of
>> any kind, and do not put it into the sun - those could damage the board
>> easily. Let it dry for at least 24 hours, more if you live in an humid area
>> (otherwise, moisture can still be trapped under the components). When this
>> time has passed, you can put again the SIMMs and the ROM chips and plug it
>> in your Classic II and see if it works.
>> 
>> It would be nice to know of your progresses :-) .
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Antonio Rodr�guez (Grijan)
>> <ftp://grijan.cjb.net:21000/>
>> 
>> Greg Koelpien ha escrito:
>>> I have what I assume is a hardware problem, but am not sure of the
>>> cause and the viability of repair. The problem is a Classic II that
>>> won't boot. When the machine is powered on, all that shows up on the
>>> screen are alternating vertical bars, about 1" in width, so there are 4
>>> 1-inch-wide white stripes interspaced equally with black bars of the
>>> same width. There is also a noise, a variable high-pitched whine, that
>>> can best be described as the sound old-time radios would make as you
>>> tune the dial. The internal fan is on, and I can hear the HD spinning,
>>> and the keyboard lights flash on when the power switch is turned on,
>>> but otherwise appears dead. There is no startup chime, happy mac, sad
>>> mac, or other image. Anybody recognize the symptoms?
>>> 
>>> Greg Koelpien


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