We can request David to include any function/feature that we require
in the core, so the core remains clean and same on both trees.
The community is very open, you can drop in at #beryl-dev any time and
some or the other developer is alway around, including Quinnstorm.
It is quite informal community, that just wants to make it easier for
everyone to contribute.
What does other compiz developers think about this idea?
Speaking as a developer, not a compiz developer... I think that using
IRC for technical discussions is totally wrong. Writing software
requires a lot of formality, discussion about changing the core should
be done in a public and recorded way so that people in the future can
see why and how changes were made.
I think that the informal attitude has got us in the state we are today,
patches applied all over the place without formal documentation. If I
am correct, the original xinerama changes were made with the
understanding that they would be removed once David had finished the
correct changes. Now the argument is that it is too hard to undo those
changes. There are actually some good features that were put into
compiz-quinnstorm which were not offered upstream because 'David would
not accept them anyway'.
Making it easy for people to contribute is great, but what is wrong with
discussing things on this list before changing core items?
I think that the quinnstorm branch was a great idea and the forums help
with support and training developers. Things went too far and now it
seems like the beryl developers are actively looking to break
compatibility so they can differentiate themselves from compiz and be
included in the distros.
If I am not mistaken, the compiz-quinn cvs is now offline and any
history is lost. I want to avoid all this political nonsense which is
only hampering development which is why I will probably host my own
repository. I will try to get ifdef patches put into the beryl plugins
so that they can work without modification. A nicer solution would be
to patch the parts of beryl core that cause the biggest headaches for
compatability (BERYL_ABI_INFO I am looking at you).
Maybe a beryl developer can comment on my 4 points, I would really like
to know more.
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