-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Let's cut to the chase and the real issue:
"Monte Carlo techniques have recently had success in Go played on a restricted 9-by-9 board. My hunch, however, is that they won't play a significant role in creating a machine that can top the best human players in the 19-by-19 game." This statement is more about the feasibility of Monte Carlo techniques on the 19x19 board than it is about beating the top human player. The author wants to design an alpha/beta brute force searcher on big hardware because he thinks IT WILL play a significant role and Monte Carlo WILL NOT. Since we don't know if this will every happen in our life-times a more interesting question in my opinion is this: Will programs having a significant Monte Carlo component (perhaps UCT) be able to dominate program NOT having a significant Monte Carlo component in the near future? That's really what we are talking about. I can only guess, but right now I have a strong "hunch" that the basic Mogo approach is the best way forward. I know a way we can try to answer that question right away - I will post about it in a minute. - - Don steve uurtamo wrote: > i think that it's an accurate statement. > > it certainly hasn't already played such a role, and there is > no evidence that it will or can. > > s. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: computer-go <computer-go@computer-go.org> > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:15:18 PM > Subject: Re: [computer-go] Former Deep Blue Research working on Go > > I'm just now reading the article. > > "Monte Carlo techniques have recently had success in Go played on a > restricted 9-by-9 board. My hunch, however, is that they won't play a > significant role in creating a machine that can top the best human > players in the 19-by-19 game." > > The author loses credibility with this statement. > > > On 10/10/07, Ray Tayek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> At 02:33 PM 10/7/2007, you wrote: >>> Found this link and thought you all might find it interesting. >>> >>> http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/oct07/5552 >> thread on slashdot: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/10/1758244 >> >> >> --- >> vice-chair http://ocjug.org/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> computer-go mailing list >> computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >> > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, > and more! > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > computer-go@computer-go.org > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHDjA+DsOllbwnSikRAmNbAJ4yF2eeGHUJHGb+0ZuwerxVOP423wCg5FQ+ 9WZ3ZLDZxW5NN/4ncCkjOCE= =P1DI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
