I like AIGO too. It has more features than Ogo and a better user interface with nicer graphics in my opinion and I bought a copy.
In response to Ben's post about Ogo not being significantly stronger, I will present what I have found in my tests. 1. I never tested 19x19, I can't say whether that is true or not. 2. I hand tested 9x9 against AIGO at it's median level (level 3 of 5) and the match was lop-sided in Ogo's favor after 50 games. It would be more lop-sided at level 4 and 5. There is no comparison. 3. On older palm devices, Ogo would be slow at level 5. But on modern devices with ARM processors Ogo takes about 10 seconds at the highest level for 9x9. That is for a Tungsten T3, some ARM devices are a little slower. (T3 is 400 MHZ) 4. At 19x19, level 5 takes about 2 minutes even with ARM. But if you use level 3 it takes only about 10 seconds per move. Ogo use the standard MC scoring method that people often complain about. I had someone write to me complaining that it sucks because it sometimes "even moves into atari." Ogo almost never moves into atari when it really matters. Most people don't know the difference between a good move, bad move, and a move that doesn't make any difference in Chinese scoring. If you play both AIGO and Ogo, AIGO may seem stronger because it is pattern based and does't do the MC scoring people hate, but that's just an illusion. People also though Eliza was smart and understood things because it displayed sentences based on simple hard coded patterns. There are no Palm programs that actually play very strong, so AIGO is likely a better choice depending on what you expect out of it. It saves games and plays them back and it plays a pretty good move instantly - a nice feature to have in this instant gratification world we live in! Which is why I'm trying to improve Ogo. I simply want it to play a better move faster. If I could make it play significantly faster and significantly better, it would be pretty awesome as a toy program. It's not clear to me that is even a good idea having a slower high level - because most people are not satisfied to play anything less than the "highest level." It's a phenomenon the retail market takes advantage of, many people are reluctant to buy anything less than the top of the line model if they can afford it. Only the best for me! I don't want the dumbed down version! - Don Joshua Shriver wrote: > I've greatly enjoyed Aigo over the years. I have it on my palm and > have upgrade hardware 3x and each time the author has kindly given me > a new registration code for free. Think it only cost $8 and well > worth it. > > Just my $0.02 > -Josh > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
