On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 13:04 -0700, Isaac Gouy wrote:
> --- Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> -snip-
> > I think the right way to do John's benchmark is to get each language
> > zealot in competition with each other. Let the C programmer prove
> > he can do it much faster.  And the Java programmer can respond if he
> > wants to.
> 
> At which point we would have /a contest between individuals/ and we
> should suspect the results would depend quite strongly on how much time
> those individuals choose to waste on the contest.

Exactly.   That is what I propose, not just a contest between language
implementation but between language advocates.   The shootout works that
way anyway, people constantly tweaking their language or their
implementation.  

I don't see anything more fair than that.  There is no way to really get
a perfect comparison because there are too many variables not to mention
which platform and OS you are on and how you set compiler options, which
language implementation, etc.  
   
So it seems best to me to let each language advocate go to bat for his
language of choice - a kind of "put up or shut up" contest.   You can
claim your language is better but you also get every chance to back it
up with real numbers. 

- Don


> 
> The benchmarks game does show /a contest/
> 
> http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php?test=meteor〈=all
> 
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