On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Mark Boon wrote:

It's difficult to get hard data about this. Go is only the most popular game in Korea. In other countries like Japan and China it comes second by far to a local chess variation.

Possibly Chess is more ingrained in Western culture than Go is in Asia, I don't know really. But Chess has the population-numbers of West vs. East against it. If there are more chess-players than Go- players in the world then it won't be by much. But the Go market is probably a lot bigger. Look only at the money in professional Go tournaments. It's probably an order of magnitude more than the money in professional Chess. But I must admit this is just a guess of mine.

Mark


Oh la la,

The origin of chess and go isn't far away from each. Chess originates from India,
go not far away from there, if you look at it from a global perspective.

Both go and chess are really similar in that they are symmetric games.

From strong player perspective there isn't that much difference in the game in
intellectual experience.

A good chessplayer can be a good go player and vice versa.
Quite the opposite with the zillions of checkers versions there are.
Checkers is NOT a symmetric game.

If Chess would get added again to the olympic sports (which i doubt happens,
but you never know how political decision taking takes place) that would
be good news for China's women team. Maybe they lose on board 1 sometimes,
but the other boards they'll win all games.

Chess is becoming really big in China now (heh i'm still looking for a girlfriend,
know a Chinese female go or chessplayer?)

I'm quite sure chess is by now bigger in China than go there. Of course the step from
Chinese chess to chess is real real tiny as well.

Chess gets played in every nation on the planet. Tiniest chess is probably in Japan.
Shogi and go seem to be more popular there.

South Korea used to be real tiny also for chess, a new initiative there might boost it a tad more.

Chess' advantage is of course the fact that the game is a lot quicker than go.

Now for serious, strong players, that is not an advantage, but for the 'big masses' it is.
Chess computers used to get exported to 105+ nations world wide.

As for the rest of the planet, with exception of Japan and Korea, go doesn't exist.

There is no doubt about that some very succesful chess and go players to be very very wealthy. If you're good in that game, you have good brains of course, everyone likes to pay you, most chessplayers even get asked to run a business of some billionair type guys. I don't doubt that's identical in go.

Whether 1 go player has more billions worth of wealth than a chessplayer, that's not very interesting.

As for the 'subtop', there chess is quadratic bigger than go. How many people live from chess?
Well thousands. Amazing yet true.

Whereas in a few nations like Netherlands the number of chessplayers that are a member of a federation is getting less, realize the tiny size of the nation here, netherlands has exactly 16.5 million inhabitants.

Even then each town still has a chessclub.

Chess is total booming in India, China, Turkey and Spain.

Just these 3 nations are already nearly 3 billion people.

When i was in China, i saw zero go boards anywhere.

Vincent


On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:22 AM, steve uurtamo wrote:

i think you might be estimating this incorrectly.

s.

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Gian-Carlo Pascutto <[email protected]> wrote:
Ingo Althöfer wrote:

What prevents you from freezing in your chess
activities for the next few months and hobbying
full (free) time on computer go.

The amount of chess players compared to the amount of go players.

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GCP
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