On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Jim O'Flaherty
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Remi,
>
> I find it interesting that he won with the slowest hardware. I am still
> wondering how much performance is still a low influencer. In other words, a
> really fast poor algorithm won't be a better algorithm on slower hardware
> (or slower software).


There is basically only 1 factor here, the scalability of the program.
That is pretty much defined by how much a program  will improve with ever
increasing hardware or time.

Every other issue is secondary in the big picture,  although in the small
many things can be a factor.   For example a program may have the most
scalable algorithm in the tournament,  and yet have a super slow
implementation.   Such a program should be considered superior to the
others,  because on fast enough hardware it will catch, then surpass the
others.   The marathon runner may not be a good sprinter,  but will beat you
at any distance that takes you more than a few minutes to run.

Another thing you should realize is that the winner of any given tournament,
where there are a lot of programs of similar strength,  is mostly a matter
of luck.   That is not to take anything away from the winner,  but just a
cold hard fact.   However,  the winner of such a competition is almost
always one of the better programs because there is little chance of winning
if you are more than one or two hundred  ELO weaker than the better programs
there.

So what Zen proved (in the empirical sense) is that it is a very strong
program.  Given that it was playing on the slowest hardware,  this is even
more evidence to indicate that it is a very strong program,  because it
basically won a difficult tournament with a handicap.

What was Zen's hardware?   What hardware were the other programs running on?


- Don



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> Jim
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>
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> Rémi Coulom wrote:
>
>> Ingo Althöfer wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> this is not Go, but I feel that some people here
>>> should know the answer:
>>>
>>> What are the results of the Connect6 competition
>>> in the Computer Olympiad.
>>>
>>> Thx in advance, Ingo.
>>>
>>>
>> I forwarded the question to organizers. I'll update the web site as soon
>> as I have the results. Speed chess is also missing.
>>
>> Also: congratulations to Yamato for the impressive victory of Zen, with
>> the slowest hardware of the whole tournament.
>>
>> Rémi
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