In message <[email protected]>, Ian Osgood <[email protected]> writes

On Oct 20, 2009, at 1:57 AM, Hideki Kato wrote:

New version of ex-strongest Ginsei-igo, "Gisei-igo 10" is announced
to be shipped on December 28th.
http://www.silverstar.co.jp/02products/gigo10/index.html (in Japanese)

New Ginsei features a hybrid Monte-Carlo engine.  Its price is not
announced but I've found the retail and discount prices are 13,440
and 9,899 yen (w/tax), respectively at an Internet shop.

http://www.murauchi.com/MCJ-front-web/CoD/0000011133148/forwardKey%5B0%
5D=cart/forwardKey%5B1%5D=wishList/forwardKey%5B2%5D=compareMyPage/forw
ardKey%5B3%5D=compareCatalog/forwardName%5B0%5D=COMMODITY_LIST/forwardN
ame%5B1%5D=COMMODITY_LIST/forwardName%5B2%5D=COMMODITY_LIST/forwardName
%5B3%5D=COMMODITY_LIST/
(in Japanese)
Cf. The prices of Tencho-no-igo (Zenith/Zen) are 13,440 and 9,138 yen
respectively at the same shop.

Hideki
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[email protected] (Kato)

Interesting! Do you know whether this is a development of the KCC Igo engine by the same team? Or have they given up and replaced their classical engine entirely? Any plans for translated versions for the international market?

A political question: if it is the same team, regardless of engine, would it still be blacklisted from tournaments?

As far as I am concerned, if I know that it is a rewritten engine, and entirely the creation of its developers, I shall not blacklist it. However, I shall require convincing evidence of this, which won't be easy.

I am aware of three older Ginsei Igo/KCC Igo engines which have been examined in detail, by the late Professor Chen Zhixing and by Dr. Martin Smith. In chronological order: The first one was clearly copied, at least in part, from Professor Chen's HandTalk. The KCC Igo team admitted this. The second one was stated by the KCC Igo team to be completely rewritten, with no plagiarised code. It was protected by an anti-trace mechanism. Nevertheless, it was found to contain code plagiarised from Professor Chen's HandTalk.
  The third one was heavily protected by anti-trace mechanisms.

Nick
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Nick Wedd    [email protected]
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