Well, I thought "there seems to be a picture emerging" was sufficiently hedged that it would be construed as a conjecture, not a conclusion. :)
I am thinking, in particular, of the scalability studies with Zen that Hideki reported to this list in Oct. 2009. > BTW, recently I've measured the strength (win rate) vs time for a move > curves with Zen vs GNU Go and Zen vs Zen (self-play) on 19 x 19 board. > Without opening book, it saturates between +400 and +500 Elo against > GNU but doesn't upto +800 Elo in self-play. That's somewhat > interesting (detail will be open soon at GPW-2009). > Hideki There was a bit more information provided in a sequence of posts to this list during that month. I wonder if the paper is out now. - Dave Hillis -----Original Message----- From: Erik van der Werf <[email protected]> To: computer-go <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2010 12:55 pm Subject: Re: [computer-go] scalability analysis with pachi 2010/1/15 <[email protected]> Thank you for posting these interesting results There seems to be a picture emerging that MCTS engines scale very well in self play, and apparently against other MCTS engines, but not so well against the non-MCTS version of Gnugo. - Dave Hillis Do you have any data to back that conclusion? Erik _______________________________________________ omputer-go mailing list [email protected] ttp://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
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