A problem with McMahon is that the bots would all need KGS ratings. I can't assign ratings myself, the scheduler uses the ratings assigned by KGS. In the five tournaments held so far this year, there are sixteen bots that have competed at least once: eight have been rated, eight not.
Nick On 9 May 2016 at 22:16, Erik van der Werf <erikvanderw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why not McMahon? (possibly with reduced handicap). It works fine in human > Go tournaments. > > IMO KGS Swiss is pretty boring for most of the time, and the scheduler > often seems to have a lot of undesired influence on the final ranking. Also > at this point I'm really not that interested any more to see some top > engine win yet another bot tournament without serious competition; I'd be > more interested to see how many stones they could give to the rest. > Wouldn't it be fun to see how many stones AlphaGo could give to CS? > > E. > > > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:29 PM, "Ingo Althöfer" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> > wrote: > >> Hi Gian-Carlo, >> >> I have thought carefully about your question on >> determinning handicaps properly. >> It seems you are very right with your doubts >> >> > The first obvious question is then: how will you determine the >> handicaps? >> >> A naive approach would be to take the KGS ranks of the bots. >> But even for those who really have this may be a problem. Namely, >> the program may use other/stronger hardware in the tournament, >> or may have made a jump in performance without playing openly >> on KGS. >> >> > As to the "large gaps in strength": the actual rating of Zen is >> > 1 stone above abakus, which is 1 stone above HiraBot. That seems >> > to conflict with your classification. >> >> Yes, but only according to KGS ranks. My impression yesterday was >> that Zen has made another jump in performance and is now more >> an 8-dan than a 7-dan. But this is indeed only a personal opinion >> and can not be taken for "serious" handicapping. >> >> Concerning abakus and Hirabot, it is indeed my opinion that they >> are at most 1 stone apart of each other. >> >> In total: my handicap idea seems not to be practicable. >> >> Ingo. >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> Computer-go@computer-go.org >> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > -- Nick Wedd mapr...@gmail.com
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