And this has no book, right? So it should be badly abused by a very good book?
s. On Fri, May 8, 2020, 3:28 PM David Wu <lightvec...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm running a new account of KataGo that is set to bias towards aggressive > or difficult moves now (the same way it does in 19x19 handicap games), to > see what the effect is. Although, it seems like some people have stopped > running their bots. Still maybe it will be interesting for the > remaining players, or any others who decide to re-turn-on their bot for a > little while. :) > > It seems like some fraction of the time, it now opens on 5-5 as black, > which is judged as worse than 4-4 in an even game, but presumably is more > difficult to play. I suspect it will now start to lose a noticeable number > of games now due to overplaying, and there's a good chance it does much > worse overall. Even so, I'm curious what will happen, and what the draw > rate will be. Suddenly having some 5-5 openings should certainly add some > variety to the games. > > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:41 PM David Wu <lightvec...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Having it matter which of the stones you capture there is fascinating. >> Thanks for the analysis - and thanks for "organizing" this 9x9 testing >> party. :) >> >> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:06 PM Rémi Coulom <remi.cou...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> If White recaptures the Ko, then Black can play at White's 56, capture >>> the stone, and win by 2 points. >>> >>> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 5:02 PM Shawn Ligocki <sligo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for sharing the games, Rémi! >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 6:27 AM Rémi Coulom <remi.cou...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In this game, Crazy Stone won using a typical Monte Carlo trick: >>>>> http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/viewer.cgi?9x9/SGF/2020/05/07/997390.sgf >>>>> On move 27, it sacrificed a stone. According to Crazy Stone, the game >>>>> would have been a draw had Aya just re-captured it. But Aya took the bait >>>>> and captured the other stone. Crazy Stone's evaluation became instantly >>>>> winning after this, the sacrificed stone serving as a threat for the >>>>> winning ko fight, 18 moves later. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Wow, I did not imagine how that move would be useful later! But the >>>> very end is confusing to my human brain, couldn't White move 56 retake the >>>> ko and win it? It seems like Black only has one real ko threat left (J4 >>>> maybe). But White also has one huge threat left (D3), so it seems like >>>> White should win this ko and then be about 4 ahead with komi. Am I >>>> missing something? >>>> >>>> -Shawn >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Computer-go mailing list >>>> Computer-go@computer-go.org >>>> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Computer-go mailing list >>> Computer-go@computer-go.org >>> http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >>> >> _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >
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