Hi Robert,

Thanks for your explanations.
I don't really understand what is the relation between what you tried to explain and the equivalence in normal cases of Chinese, Japanese scoring that I was trying to show in my approach.

I understand that in combinatorial game theory, we need to seperate the position into "independent" local parts for analyzing (by mean and temperature?). Indeed, maybe my approach causes some inaccuracy since passes and Margin are considered only globally, but I think maybe it is already enough for disposing most normal cases, except that seki and superKo.. etc such special situations need to be handled.

What I was trying to do is to consider the effect of each PLAYED STONE and compare the Chinese scoring with the Japanese. So, I was not considering from the view of the move values.

I agree with Don that "correct Japanese scoring by computer is almost impossible to get right in every case". But I am content that my program can face to most cases (I believe over 99%) correctly.

I will be very glad to see if there will be strict mathematical proofs and conclusions from Berlekamp and you. I think many Go players will be very interested as well. :-)

Aja

For which purpose...?

If all local boundaries are fixed and life and death is settled locally in each region and ko does not play a role, then the local behaviour of each region considered together for all regions should equal the global behaviour. Otherwise the same cannot be said. So why would you want to consider things "only globally"?


. # O . O # . # O .
. # O O O # # # O .
. # O . O # . # O .


. O . O # . # .
# O O O # # # O
# O . O # . # O


. # O . O # . # O .
O # O O O # # # O #
O # O . O # . # O #


You might create problems for yourself... Globally terminal (for human players) under perfect play does not(!) imply locally terminal in general.

If your aim is to approach rather than to guarantee perfect play, you might ignore the global / local difference nevertheless. Maybe such a strategic cheating by simplification saves computational time. You should just be aware that your program might sometimes make strategic mistakes as a consequence.

--
robert jasiek
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