On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM, "Ingo Althöfer" <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Magnus,
>
> thanks for the screenshot. It is really nice.
>
>
> > I could [not] resist simply implementing the latest idea I had. Since
> > already have the code to make circles on the graph it was just a
> > matter of copy and paste, and having an extra parameter for circle
> > size in my code.
> >
> > Attached is a new screen shot of visualizing number of visits on top
> > of the territory map in Valkyria.
>
> Taking your screen design, it now "only" takes a strong engine to get
> an irresistible go analysis tool for mobile phones.
>
> Concerning chess, the SSDF rating list shows:
> the best engine for mobile phone has some 2,700-rating (Pocket Fritz 3
> on 624 MHz), whereas the best engine (Deep Rybka 3) on "normal" hardware
> (x64 2GB Q6600 2,4 GHz)  hase a some 3,200 rating points.
>

A better comparison would be Fritz on the PC vs Fritz on the mobile phone.
You get something like 60-70 ELO for each doubling of hardware speed.   You
can probably extrapolate that to Go by determining what you get for a
doubling in GO and then figuring out how much the mobile phone hardware hurt
Fritz and extrapolate to GO.

Comparing Fritz to Rybka is not a reasonable comparison because Rybka is
pretty far ahead of Fritz.    That is remarkable because Fritz is a really
good program and always has been at the top or near the top.   But Rybka was
a kind of game changer.



>
> If something else (rating difference about 500 points) would hold for Go
> then the best go bots for mobile should be around 2-3 kyu (in relation
> to the 2-dan/3-dan bots Many Faces, Zen, ...)
>
> By the way:
> Is it White's turn to move in that position?
>
> > The radius of circles are proportional to Log(visits)/Log(maxvisits).
> >
> > I first used visits/maxvisits but then only the moves searched a lot
> > became visible.
> >
> > The largest circle is 1578 visits and the smallest is 9 visits. The
> > medium sized are about 150-700 visits.
>
> Really nice. Do you allow me to include your diagram(s) and explanations
> in my list at
> http://www.althofer.de/k-best-visualisations.html
> ?
>
> Cheers, Ingo.
>
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