Sorry, Pachi
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Michael Williams < [email protected]> wrote: > I would be more interested to see three strong programs voting for moves > and no human intervention. Perhaps add Patchi to the mix. > > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:31 PM, "Ingo Althöfer" <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> now I found time to read several sgf protocols >> of KGS games played by BonoBot. >> >> Here is part of the chat from a game between >> BonoBot and Zen, which I find very interesting. >> >> PW[Zen19B]PB[bonobot] DT[2011-04-23] >> ************ Chat on ***************** >> ajahuang]: they are strong at different aspects >> [ajahuang]: Zen features more fighting and semeai >> [ajahuang]: Bonobot is better at direction >> >> [ThePok]: so they have to merge >> >> [ARPAnet]: What do you think, aja? How strong would >> be a mixed "program" where Zen and bonobot suggest >> a move in a current game situation but a human (for >> example you) decides which one of those moves should >> be played? >> >> [ajahuang]: it depends on fast or slow game >> >> [ARPAnet]: well, how about the current time setting >> >> [ajahuang]: 5d up, sure >> [ThePok]: than theres not much time to choose >> [ajahuang]: if not 5d, at least 4d >> [ARPAnet]: hmm, ok thanks >> ... >> [BOThater36]: so dont trust Aja can pick the best move :-) >> [ajahuang]: everything could happen in fast games...anyway :) >> ************ Chat off **************** >> >> From my chess experiences I would say that Aja is rather >> pessimistic. Between 1985 and 1997 I made several 3-Hirn >> experiments where I was the human having the final choice >> between candidate moves by two different chess bots. >> My rating was around 1900, and through a wide range of >> bot ratings (between 1500 and 2500) I was able to add >> 200 ratings points to the strengths of the bots (in these >> experiments the bots had very similar strengths - only my >> human strength differed a lot). >> >> If this would translate to "server go", 5d-Zen and 5d-BonoBot >> would be lifted to something like 7d by the final choices >> of Aja Huang[6d]. >> >> I am really eager to see, if this holds in reality. >> >> Ingo. >> -- >> NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! >> Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > >
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