Hello Ingo,
For now, I really don't think a mixed "program" of bonobot and Zen will be
lifted to something like 7d by my final choices. But I believe they both
will improve a lot one year later. :)
Aja
----- Original Message -----
From: ""Ingo Althöfer"" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] on MixBot CrazyStone + Zen
Hello,
now I found time to read several sgf protocols
of KGS games played by BonoBot.
Here is part of the chat from a game between
BonoBot and Zen, which I find very interesting.
PW[Zen19B]PB[bonobot] DT[2011-04-23]
************ Chat on *****************
ajahuang]: they are strong at different aspects
[ajahuang]: Zen features more fighting and semeai
[ajahuang]: Bonobot is better at direction
[ThePok]: so they have to merge
[ARPAnet]: What do you think, aja? How strong would
be a mixed "program" where Zen and bonobot suggest
a move in a current game situation but a human (for
example you) decides which one of those moves should
be played?
[ajahuang]: it depends on fast or slow game
[ARPAnet]: well, how about the current time setting
[ajahuang]: 5d up, sure
[ThePok]: than theres not much time to choose
[ajahuang]: if not 5d, at least 4d
[ARPAnet]: hmm, ok thanks
...
[BOThater36]: so dont trust Aja can pick the best move :-)
[ajahuang]: everything could happen in fast games...anyway :)
************ Chat off ****************
From my chess experiences I would say that Aja is rather
pessimistic. Between 1985 and 1997 I made several 3-Hirn
experiments where I was the human having the final choice
between candidate moves by two different chess bots.
My rating was around 1900, and through a wide range of
bot ratings (between 1500 and 2500) I was able to add
200 ratings points to the strengths of the bots (in these
experiments the bots had very similar strengths - only my
human strength differed a lot).
If this would translate to "server go", 5d-Zen and 5d-BonoBot
would be lifted to something like 7d by the final choices
of Aja Huang[6d].
I am really eager to see, if this holds in reality.
Ingo.
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