More from the 1988 AGA tournament rules... D. Classes of computer participation.
There shall be three types of tournament with respect to participation by computer programs. 1. Humans only -- no computer programs may compete. This fact must appear clearly on all pre-tournament announcements. 2. Human right to refuse computer program as opponent. a. The right to refuse to compete against a computer program must be exercised globally, at the time of registration. b. The player may play the program if the alternative is a bye. However, in this case the computer is a competitor, and both will be scored accordingly. 3. Open - no right to refuse any opponent. a. Computer programs are entered as any other player, and have the same rights as any other plaer. Such rights will be asserted and exercised by the owner of the program. b. Tournament announcements must clearly state the conditions. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of steve uurtamo > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] KGS highest rank Bot > > kgs recently had a tournament where bots were allowed to play -- it > was on nonstandard-sized boards, and zen did fantastically well, > taking second place in the 21x21 tournament, in both american/european > and asian/european divisions. > > there are also a stable of people throwing themselves at zen in the > "computer go" room on kgs, solidifying its rank at 5d (as it slowly > creeps toward 6d). (to be clear, this is the version playing at > roughly (15s?/move), which in my experience is at-speed or slower than > most non-tournament play happens in practice without a clock, so > totally fair for humans to play at). so even if it can't play in human > tournaments, everyone knows that it is at least as strong as the > strongest 5d's on KGS. > > i think that it'd be great if bots could play in the 19x19 tournaments > on kgs. that is a far cry from playing as an actual player over the > board on a regular basis at regular tournaments. does anyone have an > example of *any* game that existed before computers where computers > have been accepted/allowed to play as a regular practice (instead of > as a highly debated issue?). > > s. > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Jouni Valkonen > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ingo wrote: >The ranks you mention are from KGS. Is there something > like a > > KGS World Championship, let it be with or without prize money? > Winning such > > an online championship might be easier for a bot then winning "over > the > > board".> > > > > Is it allowed for gobots to participate to online Kgs tournaments? It > would > > very nice if they could. I think that there should be 2-4 places open > for > > gobots, because computer go is such an important aspect of go. > > > > Chessbots could participate into some offline tournaments until they > were > > too strong to play with humans. This is the best way to observe the > > development of gobots. > > > > -Jouni > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Computer-go mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
