neat! is this regularly exercised? :) s.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:47 AM, David Fotland <[email protected]> wrote: > > More from the 1988 AGA tournament rules... > > D. Classes of computer participation. > > There shall be three types of tournament with respect to participation by > computer programs. > 1. Humans only -- no computer programs may compete. This fact must appear > clearly on all pre-tournament announcements. > 2. Human right to refuse computer program as opponent. > > a. The right to refuse to compete against a computer program must be > exercised globally, at the time of registration. > b. The player may play the program if the alternative is a bye. However, in > this case the computer is a competitor, and both will be scored accordingly. > > > 3. Open - no right to refuse any opponent. > a. Computer programs are entered as any other player, and have the same > rights as any other plaer. Such rights will be asserted and exercised by the > owner of the program. > b. Tournament announcements must clearly state the conditions. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go- >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of steve uurtamo >> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:21 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] KGS highest rank Bot >> >> kgs recently had a tournament where bots were allowed to play -- it >> was on nonstandard-sized boards, and zen did fantastically well, >> taking second place in the 21x21 tournament, in both american/european >> and asian/european divisions. >> >> there are also a stable of people throwing themselves at zen in the >> "computer go" room on kgs, solidifying its rank at 5d (as it slowly >> creeps toward 6d). (to be clear, this is the version playing at >> roughly (15s?/move), which in my experience is at-speed or slower than >> most non-tournament play happens in practice without a clock, so >> totally fair for humans to play at). so even if it can't play in human >> tournaments, everyone knows that it is at least as strong as the >> strongest 5d's on KGS. >> >> i think that it'd be great if bots could play in the 19x19 tournaments >> on kgs. that is a far cry from playing as an actual player over the >> board on a regular basis at regular tournaments. does anyone have an >> example of *any* game that existed before computers where computers >> have been accepted/allowed to play as a regular practice (instead of >> as a highly debated issue?). >> >> s. >> >> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Jouni Valkonen >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Ingo wrote: >The ranks you mention are from KGS. Is there something >> like a >> > KGS World Championship, let it be with or without prize money? >> Winning such >> > an online championship might be easier for a bot then winning "over >> the >> > board".> >> > >> > Is it allowed for gobots to participate to online Kgs tournaments? It >> would >> > very nice if they could. I think that there should be 2-4 places open >> for >> > gobots, because computer go is such an important aspect of go. >> > >> > Chessbots could participate into some offline tournaments until they >> were >> > too strong to play with humans. This is the best way to observe the >> > development of gobots. >> > >> > -Jouni >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Computer-go mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
