No, the first game was finished without playing a move. I kept playing pass 
and at one pass ManyFaces played pass well. Then the game was scored 
immediately as Black having the whole board, B+327.5.

http://files.gokgs.com/games/2012/1/29/ajahuang-mfgo1998.sgf

Aja

From: Stefan Kaitschick
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

Oops, that was the fourth try - the one with the 29.5 point loss.


On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Stefan Kaitschick 
<[email protected]> wrote:

  Awesome attempt!
  285 at R8 and you would have crushed it in the first try.

  Stefan



  On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Aja Huang <[email protected]> wrote:

    You should let me try. :)

    Aja


    From: David Fotland
    Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:45 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones

    I tried 29 stones once and it crushed me J



    David



    From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Williams
    Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:43 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones



    Nice.  This should be interesting...

    On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:33 PM, David Fotland <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    mfgo1998 is up on kgs if anyone wants to try it.  To get a big handicap, 
set
    up a 9 stone game and pass until you get up to 29 stones in the same 
pattern
    as Martin's game.

    Regards,


    David

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go-

    > [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Fotland
    > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:34 AM

    > To: [email protected]
    > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones
    >
    > The game with Martin was played on 8/5/1998 at the US Go Congress.  My
    > closest source is dated 7/3/1998.  I have this built into a gtp front 
end
    > now, and it's playing different moves from Martin's game, so the 
engine is
    > not identical.  Do you still want to continue with this bet?
    >
    > David
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go-
    > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of "Ingo Althöfer"
    > > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:22 PM
    > > To: [email protected]
    > > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap 
stones
    > >
    > > > Which old Manyface, I have a DOS version from 1990 :)
    > >
    > > In 1997 ManyFaces 10.0 came to the market (and is sol still 
nowadays).
    > > David Fotland wrote that in the game against Martin Mueller he 
likely
    > > used a source from July 1998. He will try to reanimate that.
    > >
    > > ingo.
    > >
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