Hello all, many thanks to David Fotland for setting up "mfgo1998" on KGS. I will analyse a little bit if the differences between this version and the one from the Martin-Mueller-game are a serious problem. (If not, my bet will stand for this version.)
I just replayed Aja's fourth trial game. Fantastic, how fast he adapts to the bot. I analysed his fourth game with the help of modern MFoG, with interesting results. You can find three files on the following website: sgf of game4: http://www.althofer.de/handicap-29/h29-ajahuang-mfgo1998-4.sgf territory estimate by modern MFoG: http://www.althofer.de/handicap-29/h29-territory-ajahuang4.jpg mc-percents by modern MFoG: http://www.althofer.de/handicap-29/h29-percents-ajahuang4.jpg Interesting: Btween move 20 and 40 modern MFoG gives minus 10 percent for the wining chances of White! Thanks again to David for his service. Cheers, Ingo. -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:41:38 +0100 > Von: Stefan Kaitschick <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones > Awesome attempt! > 285 at R8 and you would have crushed it in the first try. > > Stefan > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Aja Huang <[email protected]> wrote: > > > You should let me try. :) > > > > Aja > > > > > > *From:* David Fotland <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:45 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones > > > > > > I tried 29 stones once and it crushed me J**** > > > > **** > > > > David**** > > > > **** > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Michael Williams > > *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:43 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap > stones** > > ** > > > > **** > > > > Nice. This should be interesting...**** > > > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:33 PM, David Fotland <[email protected]> > > wrote:**** > > > > mfgo1998 is up on kgs if anyone wants to try it. To get a big handicap, > > set > > up a 9 stone game and pass until you get up to 29 stones in the same > > pattern > > as Martin's game. > > > > Regards,**** > > > > > > David > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go-**** > > > > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Fotland > > > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:34 AM**** > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap stones > > > > > > The game with Martin was played on 8/5/1998 at the US Go Congress. My > > > closest source is dated 7/3/1998. I have this built into a gtp front > end > > > now, and it's playing different moves from Martin's game, so the > engine > > is > > > not identical. Do you still want to continue with this bet? > > > > > > David > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:computer-go- > > > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of "Ingo Althöfer" > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:22 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Beating old ManyFaces at 29 handicap > stones > > > > > > > > > Which old Manyface, I have a DOS version from 1990 :) > > > > > > > > In 1997 ManyFaces 10.0 came to the market (and is sol still > nowadays). > > > > David Fotland wrote that in the game against Martin Mueller he > likely > > > > used a source from July 1998. He will try to reanimate that. > > > > > > > > ingo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir > > > > belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! > https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Computer-go mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Computer-go mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Computer-go mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go**** > > > > **** > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > Computer-go mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Computer-go mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > > -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
