"Sorry citing my paper seemed to be a curse" -> I didn't mean that!.. hehe
:) Just wanted to tell you that I tried... hehe

Our system always plays as white, against Fuego as black (in the COIN
workshop paper we also show results of our system as black against Fuego as
white). That's why when Fuego plays alone it doesn't reach 50%. The default
opening database in Fuego 1.1 is very bad for white, if both sides follow
the opening database white can win only about 30% of the games. When I
report results with the opening database, I force my system (no matter
which player/team) to play first this opening database, so it is a very
hard situation for white. Without opening database, Fuego playing alone
gets closer to 50%, but I still keep the opening database for black,
besides issues of komi, etc...

Ok, I will try those horizontal lines next time!.. Thanks!.. :)

Yours,
Leandro

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Darren Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

> > In our current research, we are exploring a team of diverse Computer Go
> > players that vote together at each step of 9x9 games. We are using Fuego,
> > GnuGo, Pachi and MoGo. We show in our work that a diverse team of players
> > can play better than the best player, ...
> > http://teamcore.usc.edu/papers/2013/ijcai13.pdf
>
> Thanks, I enjoyed your paper. Sorry citing my paper seemed to be a curse
> ;-) And kudos for managing to cite a 1785 paper: that theorem, phrased
> like that, was new to me, but it is of course a very important concept.
>
> I just had a bit of trouble understanding the results. At the start of
> the paper I think it said each team would be playing against Fuego. But
> in your results your best team barely manages 50%. Then I noticed Fuego
> was in there too, with a 30-40% win rate. So you did round-robin?
>
> (As an aside on data presentation: I'd have preferred a table than a
> chart. But if sticking with a chart, some horizontal lines would have
> helped.)
>
> Darren
>
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