>Again, I keep wondering where you meet these guys?  Are you loitering around
>best buy and figure the geeksquad guys are IT managers?  I've met many IT
>managers, and their staff, never have I met these caricatures you describe.

We had this discussion here a few months ago (and I mostly stayed out of 
it). There were plenty of first-hand accounts of IT mis-management and 
resolute refusal to see anything amiss on your side of the aisle. Sort of 
like watching the White House defend Bolton, Gonzales, Wolfowitz, et al..


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