I'm not calling someone unintelligible because they speak a different
brand of English.  I'm calling them unintelligible because, in spite of
a Ph.D. in comparative literature (with experience in forms of English
most people have never heard of, plus other languages), experience in
teaching English as a second language, seven years' experience living in
an international dorm and two years in an international YWCA, I JUST
CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.  I ask them to repeat what they've
just said, I'm very polite, but I just can't make it out.

Fortunately, this experience is rare, as most of my tech support is
local, and the people I talk to have full native-speaker capacity,
regardless of where they are from.

I just don't feel like dumping on people with a lot less training and
experience than I have who have trouble understanding overseas tech
support when they're in the middle of a computer crisis.

As for native speakers who give you a hard time on the phone: I
sympathize.  (I won't bother anyone with accounts of my dealings with
Sprint, and with Montgomery County lately.)  But this is not an excuse
for bad customer service in general.

As for "The Ugly American": the book really has an argument that differs
from the stereotype, and it IS relevant.

--Constance

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 6:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Can you hear me now? [was: iPhone vs. IT: Clash of

>Better Google the whole book, "The Ugly American," if you do that.  I
>read it, and it's not what you think.

Constance, I think you are being too literal. "The Ugly American" is 
definitely about the same thing. Back then the story was our messing up 
in Southeast Asia. Today it would be the same story about the Middle 
East. The change in geography does not change the theme of the story.

To call someone speaking perfect English "unintelligible" just because 
they have a different regional accent is quintessential ugly
Americanism. 
I had an economics professor from Australia who spoke a different brand 
of English. He was harder to understand than most Indian techs. The ugly

American would have demanded the professor's dismissal. I don't think 
that would have been right.

While it is true that "the phrase "The Ugly American" was applied to 
Americans abroad." The internet and telecommunications have brought 
"abroad" to our doorsteps. Today we don't have to travel to be ugly. 
However, it is exactly the same kind of ugly.

>(Remember Bhopal?  Remember Kennecott Copper?)

How about last week's news about the construction practices at the new 
American embassy in Iraq? Definitely an ugly situiation: kidnapping, 
slave labor, etc..

>My point is that saying
>"it's just the modern world and the bottom line, deal with it" is not
an
>excuse, and we shouldn't accept it.  At the very least, it's LOUSY

Today I spent an hour in touch-tone hell trying to get a form that JP 
Morgan Chase refuses to post on their website. The call center was in 
Chicago. The English was standard American. The service was LOUSY. So 
what's your point? Should I be happy because I was abused in standard 
American English? Many times I got excellent support from someone with a

heavy regional accent. Should I insist that it was unacceptable just 
because the person had an accent?

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