At 09:31 AM 8/26/07, Jeff Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

1. I don't want listmembers to attempt to censor others, but label such behavior "moderating the list."

How can anyone "censor" anyone else here?

I believe I specified attempts at censorship, particularly those which are deceptively and/or erroneously labelled, rather than actual success.

Do you think you missed out on some special power that can reach out and retroactively wipe a sent message?

     WTF?

As much as I would like for you to cut for yourself a big, steaming hunk of STFU, I don't think that's going to happen any time soon and my ability to make that happen is rather limited.

     What's the matter, Jeff? Why the long feces?

This is an unmoderated list. Thus, it has no given, OR SELF-APPOINTED, moderator(s). This means you.

Wrong. Tom himself can come from on high and get with the smiting, should he see fit. But, that's not his style.

1. A "moderator" who doesn't moderate means there is no moderating, which makes this an unmoderated list. Which was my point. How did it get so important to you that I be wrong?

2. Some list HMFIC who doesn't moderate is called an "admin," or something like it.

The list membership is the moderator.

I said as much in my previous post to you. But if you need to take credit for bringing up the idea, because of some hole in your soul, or whatever, then have at it.

It is, in its own right, a community and has a unique culture.

     Isn't that spatial?

It has its own rules of decorum and any of us can speak up and say what we think about any other member's behavior.

That's right. And that member is free to suggest that you roll it up and smoke it.

That I think that you're someone who was, in this instance, way out of line

If I were, in fact, out of line, whatever the hell THAT means, in THIS context, you would have said what I was out of line about. You'd have had some specifics. You would also have had some objective criteria, rather than just your own narrow, selfish, subjective, and arbitrary opinion, against which my out of lineness could be measured.

As it is, I think you have taken all of this way too personally, and you aren't having even 1% of the fun I am having in these exchanges.

and, in general, is way too impressed with himself and his place in the world is just my own opinion as a listmember.

I can't help it if you aren't educated, intelligent, articulate, funny, witty, clever, and charming, like I am. Face it. Not everybody gets to be as cool as Bob Abrams.

     You may kiss my ring.

3. Most adults on this list, in my experience, are perfectly capable of moderating themselves, and don't need any help from you, me, or Jeff Morris.

Obviously, that didn't apply to you and Mr. Morris.

     1. It isn't obvious.

     2. It did apply.

You seemed to think he needed lots and lots of your special kind of help.

Who said I was attempting to help him? You really enjoy making assumptions.

So much so, that you wanted to make sure that he couldn't possibly ignore you.

     You're assuming, big surprise there, that I was speaking only to him.

It wasn't enough that you just said your piece and got on with life,

Not enough for YOU, quite obviously, since it can fairly be implied that, by your repeated posts to this thread, you simply can't get enough of my commentary. God knows you provoke enough of it.

     I simply can't thank you enough.

he had to *know* how you wuz wronged by his critique and his decision to censor *himself* by unsubbing.

I never claimed or implied that I, personally, was "wronged." The fact of the matter is that his unsubbing post didn't have anything to do with any of my posts. And, as I made perfectly clear, but you managed to ignore, anyway, his behavior was a lot more than just unsubbing.

Heaven help anyone who goes astray of Bob's orthodoxy.

I admit that I was post-modern before there was any "modern" to be "post-" about, but I just don't have an orthodoxy (in any context to which you refer) for anyone to go astray of. I notice you didn't say, or even suggest or imply, what you imagined that orthodoxy was. I guess, if you had, that would have required you to have said something of substance, something beyond mere innuendo or namecalling. But maybe you're not up to it. After all, maybe, as I suggested earlier, you aren't as intelligent, educated, or articulate as I am. Tough existential noogies. It simply isn't my fault that, by contrast, you have managed to turn yourself into the biggest tool since Paul Bunyan's axe.

I personally believe that all U. S. Americans, in our country such as, are smart and pretty. Especially me.

               Bob

Thinking clearly and logically is hard. If it were easy, everyone would do it.

OK
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