I asked:
Does anyone know of an e-mail client that formats e-mails to enable copying 
visible headers along with the text?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] replied:
I use Mozilla thunderbird.  If I want to copy the heading information, I 
select forward the email inline and then I can copy it (except for bcc 
recipients).

I comment:
Thank you for the comment. I downloaded and installed Thunderbird ver 2. 
Simply pressing the Forward button opens a Compose screen. Once I realized that 
the path is Message>Forward As>Inline, I got a screen that enabled me to copy 
the headers and the message. However, when I include an attachment, the headers 
do not record the attached file(s). In contrast, AOL ver 7 headers do include 
this information. I'll ask Thunderbird Help 
(www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird) for advice.

Tony B wrote:
I'd like to ask WHY you need (or want?) to do this? It kind of sounds like 
you're stuck with some ancient way of handling email that can quite likely be 
done better these days. I mean, we too use email for business, but I can't 
recall the last time I needed to copy headers from a client. What's the purpose?

I comment:
Perhaps I did not sufficiently explain in my first post. Most of my work is 
in Word. I find it convenient to open a folder in Word and have everything 
related to the folder in that folder. For example, I have folders for business 
clients. I find it convenient to have a file named "Correspondence" that has 
all 
of my e-mail records in that file. When I save the e-mails in this way, I can 
scroll through the correspondence file and review my correspondence, and I can 
delete the e-mails from the e-mail client. I do not retain business client 
e-mails in subfolders of the e-mail client. Accordingly, I want the e-mails to 
include the headers with key information (Subject; Date; From; To; and 
Attachments). I do not want to have to open another program, such as an e-mail 
client, 
to obtain the e-mail records. I do not want to store e-mails in folders in 
the incoming box in the e-mail client. Apparently, this work style of keeping 
e-mails is unfamiliar to some. It took me time to explain with when I spoke 
about it with others.
 
Sue Cubic wrote:
You need to find [Eudora] Ver 7xx, though--not Ver 8--which is really 
Thunderbird.... I use Eudora, which has a "blah-blah" button to expose all the 
headers in any email. 

I comment:
Thank you for this suggestion. I tried and might continue to check Eudora ver 
7. I find that the button line has only icons and not words, and otherwise is 
crowded. Perhaps I can change the buttons to include words, and reduce the 
congestion. The buttons on Thunderbird ver 2 have both icons and words as 
default. Although the Blah Blah Blah button does expose the headers, that's 
only for 
incoming mail, as far as I can tell. I want to be able to capture headers for 
outgoing mail. Sue, do you know how to capture headers on outdoing mail? Have 
I overlooked something?

Matthew Taylor replied: 
Pegasus email would do what you want.

I comment:
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll have a look.

Tom Piwowar wrote:
Gmail using "show details."

I comment:
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll have a look. But I understand that Gmail is 
webmail. I'm interested in having an e-mail client that downloads e-mail to my 
computer.

Betty (b_s-wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) replied:
When I want to copy the header, I simply choose "Edit as New" in 
Thunderbird's Message menu. Then I make whatever changes I want, or keep it as 
is.

I comment:
Betty, I tried this repeatedly in incoming and outgoing messages. In my 
hands, this step appears to be writing a new e-mail. I get the headers 
separated 
from the message. Have I overlooked something?

Fred Holmes wrote:
In Eudora, the entire incoming message is displayed in a single pane, and 
CTRL-A selects all, including the displayed message headers.  If you can read 
the 
manual and write simple code in the settings file, you can select exactly 
which headers will be displayed and which will not.  I haven't found (but can't 
say it doesn't exist) a GUI dialog for setting the displayed headers.

I comment:
Worth a try. Thanks again, Fred.

Thanks again, y'all. For the while, I'm starting off with Thunderbird.

Michael

Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS
Intensive Care Communications, Inc.(R)
Biomedical Writing and Editing
Baltimore MD; [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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