A year isn't usually described as 'momentary' and once again you take it
where I wasn't going to try and make some crazy point.  It's laughable to
think that every iteration of OS X was a 'major' release.  The reason Apple
can stay ahead of malware writers is because there are none being written,
everyone who can think clearly about the topic has seen several times over
OS X security compromised as easily, or in the case of two cansecwest
conferences, very easily.

That being said, my point wasn't about security, but rather the number of
times Apple had to post updates to their OS to fix code problems.  Clearly
they aren't testing it the way you believe they are.  In another thread on
this list members aren't getting the OS X update for fear of it taking down
their systems or causing problems...doesn't make your argument look very
good when you refuse to get the update.  Don't trust Apple to have
thoroughly tested it?

I'm not even arguing which has better software overall...the point I am
making that you don't want to address is that Apple, along with every other
software vendor has to release updates to fix bad code.

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Tom Piwowar <[email protected]> wrote:

> >The same company lets it's code out before testing it, letting us test it
> >for them.  That's the point, you keep twisting it into Apple's favor
> because
> >you can't see anything but that soft glow from Steve Jobs' eyes.  And I
> >never said they had poor software, that's your tactic.  I said very
> clearly
> >and I'll say it again, it's not about security, it's about how many code
> >fixes these companies had to issue, if OS X has zero wild threats, why
> does
> >it have so many security updates?  Because of badly written code they
> didn't
> >test well enough...the same argument you've been using against the Zune.
>
> You keep beating that dead horse. While MS was struggling to produce just
> one misbegotten Vista, Apple gave us Leopard, Tiger, Panther, Jaguar,
> Puma, and Cheetah -- all major version upgrades. They are running circles
> around MS and innovating like crazy. They are staying well ahead of the
> malware writers. All things MS isn't able to do. All you do is beat on
> one hokey statistic which momentairly shows a lower number for MS.
>
> Yes I do think MS has poor software and I got to that conclusion by using
> their software. If you think their software isn't poor I attribute that
> to your not having experience with that better software. That better
> software is not just from Apple.
>
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