In that first paragraph it sounds more like you are talking about yourself,
you can take a subject just about anywhere to keep away from facts.

Toshiba built and sold a player called the gigabeat.  This player froze up
on jan 1 just like the zune...because the zune is a gigabeat.  You went
after only MS because you can't help yourself, it's all reflex at this
point.  I wrote an email saying MS should take full credit for the bug in
their zune branded player, I just wanted to see if you were capable of being
fair minded and would go after Toshiba for the same bug in their player.  Of
course you couldn't bring yourself out against Toshiba, too blinded by your
MS hatred to see anything else.

I can't even calculate the number of times you've taken a subject that had
zero to do with MS and turned it into  one of your pedantic diatribes,
forcing the user who orginated the thread to beg please, please I just want
my question answered.  To call Jeff out on this is to live in an alternate
reality...in your reality where you believe your opinions are fact, and
everyone else is just blather.  The entire zune thread you started created a
whole new caricature of yourself, perhaps this was your new years
resolution, to hate MS even more then before. Who'd have thought you could?

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Tom Piwowar <[email protected]> wrote:

> >Tom operates under the RDF'd delusion that Apple is some kind of
> >warm-hearted, sweet-little-aunt-who-bakes-you-pies company
>
> When you can't win with the facts change the subject (bring in Apple when
> the topic is MS), attack the truthtellers (call them "biased," "nattering
> nabobs of negativism," "liberals," "Godless" etc.), split-hairs (a
> complete breakdown is not a "serious" malfunction), etc. I have a term
> for it" "dishonesty." You discredit yourselves.
>
> >At least Jeff will answer direct questions, I'm still waiting for Tom to
> >explain his going after MS for the Toshiba bug in their player, but not
> >Toshiba for the bug in theirs.
>
> All companies are going to do something stinky from time to time. That
> does not excuse any of them when they do. "Everybody's doing it" is not
> an excuse.
>
> So MS points a finger at Toshiba, Toshiba points a finger at Freescale,
> Freescale points a finger at some subcontractor, the subcontractor points
> a finger at some manager, the manager points a finger at some untrained
> programmer, etc. On this last day of the Bush administration it is time
> to cut the neocon crap. "The buck stops here" is a good motto. The Zune
> was MS's baby. They blew it big time. Period.
>
> Anybody want to discuss the "downandup" worm? Nine-million served.
> Another MS non-success story. Their inability, after years of promising,
> to produce a secure operating system is a significant failure. No I don't
> want to see more lame excuses.
>
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