This is a truly exceptional post, Constance. I could not find a snippet to 
quote that was any less relevant or important than any other, so I am doing 
something I never do: quoting the whole thing.
Well done.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Constance
> Warner
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:55 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Gubmint computer grab
> 
> Oh, do get real.  In the 1930's, there was 25% unemployment [much
> higher in some places], starvation, ecological collapse, foreign wars
> on the horizon, large numbers of internally displaced people, native
> fascism, a growing U.S. communist party [partly supported by the
> Soviet Union], and an incipient class war.  Working conditions in
> some places in this country [like my home state] were basically Early
> Industrial Revolution--and, if you examine the history, it really was
> as bad as you think.  Things were going to hell very, very fast, and
> it took drastic action to drag the country back from the brink.
> Complete recovery took awhile, but the early measures did help.
> 
> The New Deal saved the country from a lot worse situation than we
> have at present.  In fact, FDR's most notable achievement may have
> been saving capitalism; to a lot of people at the time, communism and
> similar systems were looking pretty good, compared to the mess that
> they blamed, rightly or wrongly, on laissez-faire capitalism and Wall
> Street speculators.  (And no cracks about "communism is what we have
> now," please.  As an amateur Kremlinologist with a special interest
> in the satellite countries--remember them?--I know the difference,
> and so do you.)
> 
> I'm a little chagrined that I let myself get baited into joining the
> fray.  I just have to believe that the statements about FDR ruining
> the economy are something in the matter of a joke, or at least an
> exaggeration.  But in my home state, the scars of the Great
> Depression are still visible, so I don't think it's particularly funny.
> 
> And as for worship: I don't care who worships what, really.  I'm
> actually more concerned about exaggerations and outright lies about
> programs like the cash for clunkers program and other proposals of
> this administration.  I won't even speculate about the motives of
> people who lie and exaggerate, because they're sufficiently evident
> not to need further exposition here.  The economy may be in better
> shape than it was last fall, and some of the current programs seem to
> be having some effect.  But the chances are NOT ZERO that we could
> still have another Great Depression; and certain news [sic]
> reporters, by trying to tear down any Democratic program they see,
> and in particular by lying about those programs, seem to be pushing
> us toward the edge of the cliff.


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