Bob I have no need to convince anyone of what I believe, but when asked I will explain it.

Also note that I believe it to be truth, but am aware that what I believe is truth may not be what others believe.

The reality I stated is that people are dual natured.

I cant remember the old axiom but I think it is keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer.

Stewart

At 11:25 PM 2/28/2010, you wrote:
At 07:20 PM 2/28/2010, Stewart Marshall <[email protected]> wrote:

Lutheran Theology is unique on this one. We believe in "Simul Justus Et Picatur" Luther's oft quoted Latin phrase means Sinner yet at the same time Saint!

So yes they are contradictory, but also reality.

If it (the contradictory aspects of human nature) is an article of your Episcopal faith, then, necessarily, it's not, and, semantically, cannot ever be, "reality," in any empirical sense. Empirical fact and articles of faith are necessarily mutually exclusive.

My own take on what you have done is this, and I don't mean to single you out, Stewart, since I see anyone who does what you did in the same way: The more one has to convince others that what one believes (as an article of faith, that is) is "fact" or "truth," the weaker that one is telling me his/her faith is. Someone whose faith is strong has no need to convince those with whom he differs that he is "right" or "correct," in some absolute or objective sense. People whose faith is very strong have no need to convince anyone (who differs with them) of anything.

Moderation in all things is good.

     Including moderation.

               Bob

I'm on the case, from outer space!

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