<I'm a stanch liberal, but also a strong advocate of toting guns. For those who 
think guns kill people and not people kill people, by that logic we should ban 
cars. We should also ban all smoking, all
alcohol and anything proven to be a carcinogen.>

This is not going to go anywhere, but just for the record, I don't buy that 
logic. Although all of these things can and kill, only one of them is intended 
and manufactured for that purpose.


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