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      1. Re: USAGE: (Mis)Naming a Language
           From: Kit La Touche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      2. Re: (Mis)Naming a Language
           From: Kit La Touche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Message: 1         
   Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:18:23 -0400
   From: Kit La Touche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USAGE: (Mis)Naming a Language

sorry, you're right - [{] not [&] - i'm used to kirschenbaum, in which,
if i recall it correctly, <&> is ipa a-e ligature.

as to the schwa-ness, it's got a lot of variation - i'm a little
surprised at just [3], though, and not a rhotic [3`].  you're probably
right, though, that i'm not pronouncing the end quite as i transcribed
it.

i think, on consideration, it's probably this: they're both
unreleased/nasally-released stops, in latin and ladin, followed by a
syllabic nasal.  the /t/ further reduces, though, to a glottal stop.
maybe?

kit

On Oct 28, 2004, at 7:02 PM, caeruleancentaur wrote:
> I must not be understanding the IPA-xsampa chart.  It looks to me
> like /&/ represents a rounded vowel, the IPA being the digraph OE.  I
> can't imagine anyone pronouncing the "a" in ladder/latter/Latin with
> a rounded vowel.  That's why I used the symbol /{/ which I understand
> to represent the flat "a" as in the English word "pat."  I think the
> glottal stop (/?/ I believe) is better than what I orginally wrote,
> but there is definitely no schwa (/@/) in my pronunciation of ladder,
> which I see as /l{d3/.  I think!
>
> Charlie


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Message: 2         
   Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:23:27 -0400
   From: Kit La Touche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (Mis)Naming a Language

so, googling my conlangs gets the following:

hamdi - a whole lot on yassir hamdi.

hamdi language - first three on my language, then back to yassir hamdi.

suin�lese - no hits, because i've not yet posted the grammar.

leuma - "find people with the last name leuma", "leuma is from the
hebrew for nation, and is a name given to girls...", "discomposedness
leuma monkish regainable unwholesomeness mangel flirtishness. walleye
doing nonpersistent, martinist done dysspermatism" and nothing on my
language.

that's about all.


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