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Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Missing relays
           From: Nomad of Norad -- David C Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      2. Re: OT coins and currency
           From: Isaac Penzev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      3. Re: OT coins and currency
           From: Andreas Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      4. Re: OT coins and currency
           From: "Mark J. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      5. Re: OT coins and currency
           From: Benct Philip Jonsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      6. Re: Conlang Wiki
           From: Aaron Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Message: 1         
   Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:42:42 -0500
   From: Nomad of Norad -- David C Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Missing relays

Hi taliesin (taliesin the storyteller), in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Jan 9 you 
wrote:

> Both relay 2 (Sally Caves' Bast-text) and 3 (Nicole Perrin's Bliss of a
> Fairy) are gone from the net. The latter is completely gone but the
> former at least has the order of participants online:
>
>  hhttp://www.frontiernet.net/~scaves/bastrelay2.html
>
> * Does anyone have a copy of the entries?

Have you tried checking Wayback for it?

http://www.archive.org

Plug the desired URL into the field in the Web rectangle near the top of
the page.  Or better yet, get the Firefox extension called Methusalem:

http://murk.34sp.com/o/methusalem/

It takes the place of the Wayback extension, which broke under Firefox
version 1.5.

With this, you can just right-click the broken link on a page and select
Wayback [This] Link, and it will take you to the Wayback service's copy
of that page, without you having to manually copy-and-paste it into that
field at their front page.  Assuming they archived the given page, that
is...

> * Might it be an idea to have a common "safe house" for all relays so
>   that they won't be lost in the future?

Probably a good idea.  Do some kind of automatic mirroring, perhaps.

> t.

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Message: 2         
   Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:49:39 +0200
   From: Isaac Penzev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT coins and currency

R A Brown jazdy:

> It will be interesting to see what the venerable Commissioners lay down
> as the "correct" Cyrillic form of the name.

There are no universal values for Cyrillic characters, e.g. |è| is [i] in
Russian but [I] in Ukrainian. For now the only form I saw is |åâðî| in
Russian and |ºâðî| in Ukrainian. Both indeclinable masculine.

-- Yitzik


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Message: 3         
   Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:47:05 +0100
   From: Andreas Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT coins and currency

Quoting R A Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Andreas Johansson wrote:
> > Quoting R A Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >
> >>I notice that officially the Greeks alone are permitted to dispense with
> >>those two vowels and call it /ev'ro/. But the rest of us must have 'eu'.
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Orthographically, the Greek is
> > EYP&#937;, not EBP&#937;,
>
> Yes - but EY is /ev/ or /ef/ (depending upon what follows). /ev/ does
> not have to be spelled EB in Greek.

My point was that the Greek form has an orthographic diphthong just the Latin.

[snip]> > and phone*ically the Swedish is [Evru]*, so Greek
> > doesn't seem unique in either respect.
>
> I did not know that - good for the Swedes!

The treatment of |eu| in Greek-derived Swedish words is erratic, but [Ev] is
probably the commonest.

Back in the day, some Swedes used an English-inspired [j8\:ru], but that
pronunciation, thankfully, seems to have died out.

                                          Andreas


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Message: 4         
   Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:52:34 -0500
   From: "Mark J. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT coins and currency

On 1/9/06, Andreas Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Back in the day, some Swedes used an English-inspired [j8\:ru], but that
> pronunciation, thankfully, seems to have died out.

Yeah, thank goodness.  The last thing you want is to sound like those
ignorant Anglophones. :)

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Mark J. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Message: 5         
   Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 17:03:20 +0100
   From: Benct Philip Jonsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT coins and currency

Andreas Johansson skrev:


> The treatment of |eu| in Greek-derived Swedish words is erratic, but [Ev] is
> probably the commonest.
> 
> Back in the day, some Swedes used an English-inspired [j8\:ru], but that
> pronunciation, thankfully, seems to have died out.
> 
>                                           Andreas
> 
> 

IME Swedish Euro-supporters say [j8\:ru] while Euro-opponents say
[Evru] or [evru].  There may be exceptions, but by and large the
picture holds true.

-- 

/BP 8^)>
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Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se

         Solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant!
                                             (Tacitus)


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Message: 6         
   Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:16:24 -0800
   From: Aaron Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Conlang Wiki

I'd be happy to. . .but I can't see how to sign up.

Peter Bleackley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The conlang wiki 
http://www.talideon.com/concultures/wiki/ has been locked 
for some time, due to vandalism. Keith has stated that he wants to set up 
an editors table - hopefully if enough people sign up for this, he'll be 
able to resurrect the wiki. I've volunteered already, and I think it would 
be a good thing if other people did. Please have a look at the wiki, and 
sign up if you think you can make a contribution to bringing a useful 
resource back to life.

Pete



                
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