HI

See the following symposium for some perspectives on how Latinas/os experience race, 
ethnicity, etc.  in America. Yes, the experience of Latinas/os in America is different 
than that of African-Americans, just as the experience of Asian Americans is 
different. However, this does mean that race does not matter for them, just that it 
operates in different ways.

Sympoisum: LatCrit: Latinas/os and the Law,  A  Joint Symposium by California Law 
Review and La Raza Law Journal, Volume 10 of Berkeley La Raza Law Journal (1998).

yb





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Professor Yvette M. Barksdale
Associate Professor of Law
The  John Marshall Law School
315 S. Plymouth Ct.
Chicago, IL 60604
(312) 427-2737
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> From:         David Bernstein[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply To:     Discussion list for con law professors
> Sent:         Friday, June 27, 2003 3:13 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:           Re: Puzzles re: Grutter and Korematsu - hispanics and segregated  
>             schools
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> I agree with the below, though obviously reasonable people can disagree on the 
> remedy.  The below is why I think the case for affirmative action for African 
> Americans is a very serious one.  Where we perhaps disagree is over  whether Latinos 
> are "raced" in anything near the same way as African Americans.  High rates of 
> intermarriage, self-identification as whites or as members of country specific 
> immigrant groups (Cuban Americans, Mexican Americans, etc., not "Hispanics"), wide 
> variation in economic success among groups from different countries, etc., suggests 
> not. Perhaps there is social science data to prove me wrong that I haven't seen, but 
> I don't think that most whites or most Latinos think of Latinos as being a minority 
> "race," and even fewer would if government and universities didn't insist on 
> classifying them as such.  A related observation is that most discussions of 
> affirmative action begin with a disclaimer that the programs at issue don't apply 
> only to African!
  Americans, but then the discussion proceeds as if they do (see Schuck's otherwise 
wonderful book for an excellent example).
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> In a message dated 6/27/2003 3:54:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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>       I think the problem is the confusion of race discrimination with economic 
> disadvantage.  Race is not simply an economic class problem, i.e., that minorities 
> are disproprotionately poorer and thus have fewer advantages. Rather, race 
> discrimination is a race problem. Minorities are disadvantaged because of the 
> society's attitudes about race, and they are racially disadvantaged, even if they 
> neverthelesss manage to become more affluent, or integrated, etc. Race still affects 
> their lives. And it affects their lives no matter how much they might want to ignore 
> race. Other people race them, regardless of whether they want to be raced or not.
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