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 1. RE: Removing dye from ivory handles

 2. CALL FOR ESSAYS: Gabo Trust. Contemporary Sculpture Conservation: Materials 
and Issues

 3. Seeking assistance for fabricating custom oversize boxes for storage of 
garments

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1.From: Christian Mueller-Straten
 Posted: Saturday March 22, 2025  8:02 AM
 Subject: RE: Removing dye from ivory handles
 Message: 
Excellent remark and warnings, Miko.


The damages of the leak are part of the history of the object. Conservation has 
to conserve all historical impacts and does not mean to transform a musical 
instrument back to its presumed original status. Leave the stained ivories as 
they are, please, and do not replace them, as final approach, with new ivories. 
Respect history and age, and allow to tell the story of the leak.


Best





Christian


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[Owner]
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-21-2025 07:12
From: Miko Vasques Dias
Subject:  Removing dye from ivory handles


Kirsty, the ivory will lighten when exposed to light/UV, not so much the stain. 
If the damage was caused by a leak (water?) often it'll have to be solved with 
another leak, in a controlled matter. Without knowing anything about the 
coloring material that was left in the very porous ivory your treatment remains 
a shot in the dark. Some of the products that were suggested in this thread are 
US specific brands, it would be helpful to us over the pond knowing what the 
active ingredients are.



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Miko Vasques Dias
Wood and Furniture Conservator
Lecturer University of Amsterdam Program in Conservation and Restoration
Amsterdam
Netherlands
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-21-2025 05:52
From: Kirsty Clark
Subject: Removing dye from ivory handles



Thank you, will definitely give UV a try if i can. 



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Kirsty Clark
London
United Kingdom

Original Message:
Sent: 03-20-2025 23:40
From: Linda Roundhill
Subject: Removing dye from ivory handles



I had a minor success using alcohol to lessen a pink dye stain and then some  
more success with UV light, but it was a long time ago and I don't recall the 
details.  It would depend on the dye and how deep it has migrated. 







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Linda Roundhill
Conservator/Owner
Everett
United States

Original Message:
Sent: 03-18-2025 07:14
From: Kirsty Clark
Subject: Removing dye from ivory handles



Hello Martin. thank you so much, will give this a try if we can! 



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Kirsty Clark
London
United Kingdom

Original Message:
Sent: 03-17-2025 20:59
From: Martin O'Brien
Subject: Removing dye from ivory handles



Kirsty,

I use a lot of dyes and inevitably will get some on my skin when a glove gets a 
puncture. I use a special hand cleaner called Reduran which removes the dye 
stain from my skin as if magic. I'm not sure if it would be suitable for ivory 
however. I'm a wooden objects conservator and know very little about ivory. 
Reduran was re-named a few years ago to Kresto Kolor Special. Sadly it was 
discontinued by the manufacturer/distributor here in the States, but I suspect 
that it might still be available in UK or Europe as it seems like a European 
product. If you do find it over there, let me know as my supply is running low 
and there is no replacement.

There is an entirely different product called Amodex and it is marketed to 
people who use fountain pens . . . sooner or later fountain pen users get ink 
on their clothes. You might consider looking into this product as well.

Best wishes,





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Martin O'Brien PA-AIC
Wooden Artifact Conservator in Private Practice
Winston Salem, NC
336-773-1334

Original Message:
Sent: 03-14-2025 11:29
From: Kirsty Clark
Subject: Removing dye from ivory handles



Hello,

I am currently conserving a set of instruments with ivory handles. They were 
damaged in a leak, and the dye from the case was transferred onto the ivory. We 
have managed to remove some of the dye but it is still pretty obvious. We have 
tried humidifying, IDA and WA paste, but it has not removed the dye. I was 
hopping that someone may have more experience and ideas into what could be done 
to remove the dye. 

Thank you,



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Kirsty Clark
London
United Kingdom
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2.From: Jannicke Langfeldt
 Posted: Saturday March 22, 2025  11:36 AM
 Subject: CALL FOR ESSAYS: Gabo Trust. Contemporary Sculpture Conservation: 
Materials and Issues
 Message:           

This message is posted on behalf of the Gabo trust. Please send any responses 
to the call for essays to the email address at the end of the message. 


CALL FOR ESSAYS:
   
   Contemporary Sculpture Conservation: Materials and Issues
    
   A new publication on the conservation of   contemporary sculpture and its 
issues supported by the Gabo Trust
    
   The Gabo Trust supports research in the conservation   of modern and 
contemporary sculpture. Based in Britain, it supports   specialists 
internationally, helping them disseminate their research findings   and share 
their expertise with the visual art community at large. To this   end, the Gabo 
Trust is planning the publication of an ambitious new   collection of essays 
dedicated to the materials and issues of contemporary   sculpture conservation. 
 
    
   The first priority of this collection will be to present new approaches to   
the conservation of more traditional materials such as bronze, stone, wood,   
plaster and ceramic, as well as other new synthetic and bio materials. It   
will also focus on the conservation of time-based media and materials used by   
sculptors in works that incorporate film, photography and performance elements  
  as well as all those other ephemeral, organic and less stable materials   
that artists have been increasingly using for their sculptures over recent   
years, during which we have become more accustomed to contemporary sculptural   
practices that use material impermanence and disintegration as meaningful   
parts of the works themselves. 
    
   Conservation today has a changing and dynamic relationship with contemporary 
  sculpture, which is itself informed by developments in conservation,   
influencing the choices artists make. Contemporary sculpture and contemporary   
conservation share the same present and many of the same challenges    
materially, technically and intellectually. Our new book would pay attention   
to this and the material diversity of much contemporary sculpture - and, in   
turn, the issues and new conservation considerations that follow. 
    
   The second major concern of the book is to ask 'why conserve' sculpture   
today, looking closely at the issues that follow from this. In this way, this   
second part will include considerations on many issues, including but not   
limited to: 
                                                  The ethics of sculpture 
conservation 
                    Conservation through reproduction and       facsimile  and 
the issues concerning of renewal of sculpture through its       re-making
                    The relationship of sculpture conservation       to the art 
market and to institutions, including art gallery and museum       collections 
                    The outdoor lives of contemporary       sculpture and the 
challenges of conservation in sculpture located the       public domain
                                                      
                             The book will also be interdisciplinary in outlook 
and, as well as conservation specialists, it will draw upon a range of 
contributors and a variety of approaches and perspectives, including those of 
curators, artists and art historians. We would also be interested to hear about 
artist/conservator collaborations and other kinds of art/art 
history/conservation conversations.
  
 We would like to hear from those who have been recipients of Gabo Trust 
funding in the past, as well as those who are making contact for the first 
time. Please send an email (titled 'CSC BOOK') with your CV and a 250-word 
abstract outlining the proposed subject of your 4,000-5,000 word essay to: 
[email protected] <[email protected]>
  
 The deadline for proposals is Wednesday 30 April 2025, 6pm (GMT). 

3.From: Wendy Jessup
 Posted: Saturday March 22, 2025  11:25 PM
 Subject: Seeking assistance for fabricating custom oversize boxes for storage 
of garments
 Message: 
Greetings all -


I am currently working on a project in New Jersey and we need to have at least 
10 custom boxes fabricated for oversize garments.  We have the oversize 
blueboard sheets and are looking for someone to make the boxes.  Looking for a 
referral to a company or someone in the NYC/Philadelphia area.   We will be 
reaching out to TALAS soon.  Are there others that can provide this service 
that we should contact?


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Wendy Jessup
Conservator
Wendy Jessup and Associates, Inc.
Arlington
United States
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